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| Topic: | Splitting IR This thread has 23 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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| Post 1 made on Friday February 19, 2010 at 11:27 |
mariomp Loyal Member |
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What's the easiest, most reliable way to split IR signals coming out of RFX9400? RFX9400 has 4 outputs, I need 6.
I don't need all of them to be routed.
Dual emitter IR flashers won't get me there.
Two of them for example would run to 2 remotely located TVs, a Sony and a LG.
Do I run the cable out of the back jack and just split the feeds with beanies?
Do I take the 'feed' and run it to a connecting block with power, like the XANTECH CB20, or the likes of one?
Do we have connecting blocks available with both screw terminals and 3.5mm jacks?
Note: also posted in the CI forum.
Thanks,
Mario
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| Post 2 made on Friday February 19, 2010 at 11:49 |
scapegoat for hire Senior Member |
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Used to wire them (splice) in series, found that parallel works better with our current systems.
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| Post 3 made on Friday February 19, 2010 at 12:24 |
Indigo Select Member |
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Use the connecting block with power.
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| Post 4 made on Friday February 19, 2010 at 12:45 |
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[Link: rticorp.com]Works like a charm. We use these all the time when the universal remote or rti runs out of emitters.
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| Post 5 made on Friday February 19, 2010 at 12:49 |
jimstolz76 Loyal Member |
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Probably doesn't need to be a powered connecting block. Power usually just goes to the +12v terminal to power a sensor. He would probably only need an amplified connecting block if he's really pushing some distance. A 789-44 or ECB-5 with no power connected would probably work fine.
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| Post 6 made on Friday February 19, 2010 at 13:07 |
dinom Active Member |
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Speakercraft used to have a IR splitter cable (complete with diode isolation). Part number was SAC-1.0.
Not sure if this is still available or not.
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| Post 7 made on Saturday February 20, 2010 at 13:11 |
Ernie Bornn-Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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On February 19, 2010 at 11:49, scapegoat for hire said...
Used to wire them (splice) in series, found that parallel works better with our current systems. This would be more helpful if you'd mention what your current systems are. An IR distribution block is simply several of these: IR signal ------ 470 ohm resistor ------ IR out to emitter + IR signal ground-------------------------IR emitter - The resistors limit the current to each LED and ensure that the LEDs all turn on by isolating them from each other. If you want to take an output and double it up, take the plus and add this: plus------------100 ohm resistor---------------LED 1 + plus------------100 ohm resisotr---------------LED 2 + That will only give you one additional output, so do that with two outputs. Don't split one output more than once, just to stay on the conservative side. I've used a Xantech 789-44 on an earlier model of Marantz RF receiver and it worked well. Only use the split outputs on equipment near the receiver. Again, be conservative: don't send the modified signal to the more difficult situation.
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| Post 8 made on Sunday January 9, 2011 at 13:13 |
andrewinboulder Select Member |
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It would seem that a single 3.5 mm mono male to two 3.5 mm mono female would be internally wired in parallel and thus able to act as a splitter for ir. Is this correct?
I hate splicing IR emitters to get two emitters out of one port and sometimes I don't have a dual emitter handy...
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| Post 9 made on Sunday January 9, 2011 at 13:38 |
On February 19, 2010 at 13:07, dinom said...
Speakercraft used to have a IR splitter cable (complete with diode isolation). Part number was SAC-1.0.
Not sure if this is still available or not. Still available, but it's not what we need here. SAC-1.0 would be more useful to use the same emitter with two different IR inputs. In this situation EMX-1.0 would be more useful. Works fine.
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| Post 10 made on Monday January 10, 2011 at 04:00 |
Ernie Bornn-Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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On January 9, 2011 at 13:13, andrewinboulder said...
It would seem that a single 3.5 mm mono male to two 3.5 mm mono female would be internally wired in parallel and thus able to act as a splitter for ir. Is this correct? However, the resistor in series with an LED brings the signal voltage down to whatever voltage it takes to turn on the LED. If LED A comes on at a slightly higher voltage than LED B, it won't turn on because LED B will bring the voltage down to its turn-on level. I hate splicing IR emitters to get two emitters out of one port and sometimes I don't have a dual emitter handy... Yeah, that's too bad, but it has to be done. Incidentally, a dual emitter is/are two emitters in series, not in parallel, because of what I said above.
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| Post 11 made on Monday January 10, 2011 at 09:29 |
Duct Tape Loyal Member |
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i've split outputs on Nevo NevoConnects up to 3 times in parallel with no issues. We use Niles emitters if that makes any difference.
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| Post 12 made on Monday January 10, 2011 at 09:57 |
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On January 9, 2011 at 13:13, andrewinboulder said...
It would seem that a single 3.5 mm mono male to two 3.5 mm mono female would be internally wired in parallel and thus able to act as a splitter for ir. Is this correct?
I hate splicing IR emitters to get two emitters out of one port and sometimes I don't have a dual emitter handy... I used to do this with Crestron ST-CP's using mono Y adapters from radio shack.
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| Post 13 made on Monday January 10, 2011 at 12:59 |
Ernie Bornn-Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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On January 10, 2011 at 09:29, Duct Tape said...
i've split outputs on Nevo NevoConnects up to 3 times in parallel with no issues. We use Niles emitters if that makes any difference. If they come from the sam manufacturing batch your chances are pretty good that paralleling will work. I'm suggesting going past "pretty likely" as your performance goal. When, one day, you find that it doesn't work, you'll go nuts trying to figure it out; thus you should do it the way that will work every time, which is series LEDs or a resistor in series with each LED.
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| Post 14 made on Monday January 10, 2011 at 13:32 |
Impaqt RC Moderator |
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On February 19, 2010 at 11:27, mariomp said...
What's the easiest, most reliable way to split IR signals coming out of RFX9400? RFX9400 has 4 outputs, I need 6.
I don't need all of them to be routed.
Dual emitter IR flashers won't get me there.
Two of them for example would run to 2 remotely located TVs, a Sony and a LG.
Do I run the cable out of the back jack and just split the feeds with beanies?
Do I take the 'feed' and run it to a connecting block with power, like the XANTECH CB20, or the likes of one?
Do we have connecting blocks available with both screw terminals and 3.5mm jacks?
Note: also posted in the CI forum.
Thanks,
Mario OK, what am I missing? Port 1: Sony TV Port 2: LG TV Port 3: Dual Emitter Device 3 and 4 Port 4: Dual Emitter Device 5 and 6
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| Post 15 made on Monday January 10, 2011 at 15:44 |
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On January 10, 2011 at 13:32, Impaqt said...
OK, what am I missing?
Port 1: Sony TV Port 2: LG TV Port 3: Dual Emitter Device 3 and 4 Port 4: Dual Emitter Device 5 and 6 Nothing. I think this puzzle has been solved.
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