On April 14, 2007 at 14:39, QQQ said...
Now wait a minute Owen :-)! That's cute, but with the
exception of some jabs from time to time at Control4,
and a frank discussion of PHAST along with every other
person who ever sold it, I can't recall many times I've
ever taken off on a manufacturer. I don't believe I've
EVER aired my dirty laundry here.
No, true enough. We don't even know if you have dirty laundry. :-) I was acting on Alan's behalf there, considering he's been quiet lately; someone needed to allude to you in an oblique manner.
You miss my point, however. I wasn't talking about EI specifically, but any manufacturer who thinks about participating here. You will agree that even if you're feeling ambivalent about what a vendor says here there will be others that will take unfair jabs at whatever vendor poster they don't like, right? And how is that vendor poster to respond?
I think you are ignoring one major fact. THEIR behavior,
i.e. THEIR CLAIMS about themselves and the competition.
As I just pointed out over at AVS, why is it that some
individuals manage to participate on forums regularly
and are held in high esteem by almost everyone. Buzz
Goddard from NeStreams, Paul from Triad, Brent from Etherial,
Mark Seaton from Seaton Sound to name a few.
Yes, there are some stand-up guys on this forum.
The reason is that these are stand-up guys who conduct
themselves with decorum, don't shill for their product
in every thread, and don't make constant exaggerations
and false claims about their own products while making
misstatements about the competition. They also have some
marketing sense. They understand the market and understand
how to present themselves.
No argument. However, all of the ones you cited are not core electronics or (in the case of EI) automation companies. How excited can you really get on a wire vendor's claims? Or a speaker vendor? If Denon, Marantz, Crestron, Fujistu or other biggies has a presence here they would be hammered every day by posters that were made because of some technical problem, a slow response to a voice mail, failure to drop prices enough to meet the market, and the list goes on.