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| Topic: | Seeking opinions on my work This thread has 81 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 30. |
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| Post 16 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 10:03 |
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Nice clean rack, however there is one thing i would say that you have breached ACA regulations by running the 240V and the comms/ AV cables together. I would have them segragated.
As for the labelling avoid writing on the cables with a marker pen, use something like the panduit lables printed on a laserjet as over time they will become totally unreadable. Ive done lots of work cabling in Exchanges where initially marker pens were used to mark the to and from ends at each ond of the cable, and after a few years they cant be read.
I would look at using velcro ties, you can buy it on a rool and cut to your desired lengths, IMHO they look better and lots less risk of causing scratches whey your reaching inside.
Other than that a very cools job.
BTW whats the 3 boxes above the laptop.
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| Post 17 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 10:05 |
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Very nice, I just have two (4?) words of advice...
Middle Atlantic TRIM STRIPS.
IMHO, any rack, no matter how well done, looks unfinished without them.
Aside from that, looks great Simon.
A product I'm looking for is a *reasonably* priced, keyboard/mouse/monitor slideout.
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| Post 18 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 10:10 |
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On October 26, 2006 at 10:03, Mr Mod said...
BTW whats the 3 boxes above the laptop. The top one is a DirecTV receiver. The other two are Sony pieces. Look like a DVD or VCR?
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| OP | Post 19 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 10:11 |
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On October 26, 2006 at 09:54, tschulte said...
Also, I would have put some blanks
at the top to hide the colored wire you see. I know the
rack manufacturer probably charges an arm and a leg for
them, but you could easily have made your own with some
black plexi or even 1/4" plywood painted black. I think the colored wires you are refering to are the Phone and data patch leads and need to be exposed for user patching. The different colors are for different aplications, yellow for Data, blue for phone system and red for Direct phone line out. There are also cable managers protruding out that will not allow blank panels to go on. I do take on board your comments about the labeling. Thanks Simon.
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| Post 20 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 10:24 |
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On October 26, 2006 at 10:10, tschulte said...
The top one is a DirecTV receiver. The other two are
Sony pieces. Look like a DVD or VCR? Cant be a direct TV box as the service isnt available in Aus especially here in Melbourne
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| OP | Post 21 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 10:26 |
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On October 26, 2006 at 10:03, Mr Mod said...
Nice clean rack, however there is one thing i would say
that you have breached ACA regulations by running the
240V and the comms/ AV cables together. I would have them
segragated. On Further investigation, you are correct, on one shelf there is power to the Crestron power supplies running with the Cresnet cables for about 20cm. I will remedy that when next onsite. All the rest of the power is segregated. I would look at using velcro ties, you can buy it on a
rool and cut to your desired lengths, IMHO they look better
and lots less risk of causing scratches whey your reaching
inside. Looks like i'm about to invest in some velcro. Other than that a very cools job. Thanks BTW whats the 3 boxes above the laptop. Sony Hi Def twin tuner PVR Sony 300gig hard drive and DVD recorder Foxtel IQ Box (twin tuner and hard drive built in) Simon.
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| OP | Post 22 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 10:30 |
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On October 26, 2006 at 10:05, Barry Shaw said...
A product I'm looking for is a *reasonably* priced, keyboard/mouse/monitor
slideout. The one i used in this rack is about $1500.00 AU so probably not reasonably priced. Simon.
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| Post 23 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 11:34 |
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| Post 24 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 11:41 |
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Simon,
Looks real good, especially if you've figured out on your own.
The only recommendation is to purchase a label maker designed to make labels for wire, such as a Brady IDExpert or a Rhino Pro. It's an investment, but the the product will pay for itself within the first large rack.
Also, I'm not on the anti-wire tie train, because velcro has it's benefits and drawbacks. In larger racks such as the one you displayed, I would still use wire ties. Also, you should have a nice pair of flush cutters so as to cut the excess off the wire tie flush with the head, thereby not creating all the pointy razor blades at the end of the wire.
The reality is that any experienced pro should have both velcro and wire ties, and use them depending on the situation.
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| Post 25 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 11:45 |
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What is the name of the white rolling rack you have?
Nice looking finish.
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| Post 26 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 12:09 |
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Also, I'm not on the anti-wire tie train, because velcro
has it's benefits and drawbacks. In larger racks such
as the one you displayed, I would still use wire ties.
Also, you should have a nice pair of flush cutters so
as to cut the excess off the wire tie flush with the head,
thereby not creating all the pointy razor blades at the
end of the wire.
The reality is that any experienced pro should have both
velcro and wire ties, and use them depending on the situation. We also use wire ties, love 'em. The velcro stuff we use is made by direct connect and is just a roll that you can cut to any length, hooks on one side - loops on t'other - custom length velcro!!!
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| OP | Post 27 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 12:10 |
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On October 26, 2006 at 11:45, GotGame said...
What is the name of the white rolling rack you have?
Nice looking finish. Rack technologies i think.
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| OP | Post 28 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 12:14 |
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2 things definately going on the shopping list.
Velcro and wire labelmaker.
Will look further into cable management options too.
Thanks to everyone so far.
Simon.
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| OP | Post 29 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 12:21 |
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On October 26, 2006 at 11:41, BigPapa said...
Also, I'm not on the anti-wire tie train, because velcro
has it's benefits and drawbacks. In larger racks such
as the one you displayed, I would still use wire ties.
Also, you should have a nice pair of flush cutters so
as to cut the excess off the wire tie flush with the head,
thereby not creating all the pointy razor blades at the
end of the wire.
The reality is that any experienced pro should have both
velcro and wire ties, and use them depending on the situation. No problem with the cutters i only use the lindstrum ones. Cost a fortune but well worth it. Theres not a sharp edge on a single cable tie and they are all cut flush.
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| Post 30 made on Thursday October 26, 2006 at 14:36 |
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HEY!! Where's the IPOD??? (Just kidding)!!!
That is really nice! I would agree with tshulte & Eastside... a few lacing bars here and there & rhino labels & banana plugs... but hell it's so easy to criticise!
Curious, as I have personally only done a few racks myself (and they take me forever, and never look as good as those), but how many hours would you estimate it took?
Did you have to make many changes mid stream, or were you able to execute everything as per your initial layout ideas?
What was the client's opinion - or did they have much to say? Did they seem to appreciate it?
Being able to do a rack like that looks easy, but it takes a lot of talent, time and fair amount of creativity & intelligence (that's why mine usually look pretty lame - but, I'm improving)...
If you don't mind, I think I'll print those picks and stick em on the wall as a reminder of what I SHOULD be doing!
Looks like it was a nice house too!
Congrats, and are Midnight Oil still around?
Nice system though, we should all strive to do work like that whenever possible, man.
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