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MX-3000 programming
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Post 1 made on Monday November 21, 2022 at 18:34
burrism
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hello! I am new to this site and have already found a few things to help me, so thanks!

I was finally able to get my MX-300 to communicate with my Windows 11 pc but have realized that my knowledge of programming the remote is as old as the remote itself. I have all new equipment (and software) so I am hoping someone on here is interested in programming my remote for me for a reasonable fee. :)

super basic functionality with 3 devices (yamaha AV receiver and tuner and PS4) .

Looking forward to some assistance.!!!
Post 2 made on Monday December 12, 2022 at 20:01
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how did you get the software to work with windows 11? I tried and tried and had to dig out an old windows 7 laptop I had.
OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday December 13, 2022 at 06:37
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good morning. I had to download a driver to get the MX-3000 to be recognized by my laptop, but otherwise everything works (for the most part). I cannot find the page right now, but basically the website guides one through how to modify the unidentified USB device settings to work. You have to change the driver to a generic Microsoft driver and it worked like a champ.

As I got zero interest in the above, I am muddling through the programming and I am still trying to figure out why the learned IR codes work on some pages but not others.

let me know if you need any additional info.
Post 4 made on Tuesday December 13, 2022 at 07:11
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On December 13, 2022 at 06:37, burrism said...
good morning. I had to download a driver to get the MX-3000 to be recognized by my laptop, but otherwise everything works (for the most part). I cannot find the page right now, but basically the website guides one through how to modify the unidentified USB device settings to work. You have to change the driver to a generic Microsoft driver and it worked like a champ.

As I got zero interest in the above, I am muddling through the programming and I am still trying to figure out why the learned IR codes work on some pages but not others.

let me know if you need any additional info.

Shoot me a pm with a copy of your file (dropbox link or something).  I'll take a look when I get a chance
Post 5 made on Tuesday December 13, 2022 at 18:20
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Ya, I played around with that but could never get it to DL to the remote.
OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday December 14, 2022 at 06:45
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MPG7321: This is all from memory, so it might be a little off:

Plug in the remote to your computer
Press the "windows" button
Type “device manager”
Right click on the unknown device
Click properties
Click update driver
Click browse computer for drivers
Click let me pick from a list of drivers
Pick Microsoft then the top one driver, generic driver or something.

I think this link is similar: [Link: remotecentral.com]

Last edited by burrism on December 14, 2022 07:00.
OP | Post 7 made on Wednesday December 14, 2022 at 06:51
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Hey goldenzrule, thanks for the response! I am currently travelling for work but have added a dropbox link to the file:

[Link: dropbox.com]

or this: [Link: dropbox.com]

so in my macros, sometimes the buttons work and sometimes they do not (same button, different macros).

Last edited by burrism on December 14, 2022 07:00.
Post 8 made on Wednesday December 14, 2022 at 17:03
Brad Humphrey
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Wow, I haven't programmed an MX-3000 in over a decade. I had to go download the software and install it.

1st thing I noticed is you have a lot of learned commands. Commands that I know are in the database. It is better to use the built in database when those commands are available.

2nd, you put the actual commands in your macro. You should never do that. Create a hidden page for your non-source devices (TV, AV receiver, etc.) and alias the commands in your macro. This is especially important when you use an RF base station.

3rd, some of your macros don't make any sense. Why are you needing a 'prev' command 2x for the Yamaha to get to the radio? This was a learned command, so I'm guessing you put a discrete radio input command on that button? But why 2x? See how the learned commands when you don't need to create confusion. Again all the discrete Yamaha codes for power, input, and DSP are in the database.


Right now it is a pretty jumbled mess. I would start from scratch for something like this =
Create all you core devices (TV, AV receiver). These pages don't need a background or fancy buttons [it will never be seen]. Just a lot of rectangle buttons to put all the codes you are going to need to operate those devices. Go thru the database and gather all the codes you need and put them on the buttons and label them. You will likely grab codes from several databases (such as different Yamaha receivers). Until you have all the buttons you need: Power on & off, discrete inputs for all the inputs available on the devices. And DSP modes if you want for the AV receiver.

Then create your source devices (Xfinity, firestick, radio, PS4, etc.). Create a page at the end that is hidden, for any IR codes for macros that don't need to be seen - such as power on & off if available. Note: there is no need to have a power button in the macro for the Xfinity box, they are on all the time anyway. You are just turning the video output to a static screen. Keep it simple!!! Same with trying to do all the channel icons. No need to complicate the programming like this, most Xfinity cable boxes have fav lists that you can program in the box.

Test all commands. Then start building your macros. Aliasing the commands to each page you have the commands stored in.
OP | Post 9 made on Thursday December 15, 2022 at 07:35
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Brad - thanks for the look. I am currently travelling for work so I will have to address the suggestions when I get back (next year :) ).

1. Yes, they are all learned commands as I could not find my equipment listed in the command database (all too new equipment) or I just don't know how to search properly. (Yamaha RX-A2A receiver, Samsung UN85TU700DFXZA TV)

2. I will have to figure the alias page thing out...

3. Sadly, the Yamaha receiver does not have an input selection, only a rotating knob to scroll up or down through the inputs. So my intent is to default the receiver to HDMI2 before the final power command. This way, when the unit is powered on, it is on a known position in the scroll menu. Hence the multiple prev+ and prev- commands.

I will for sure reach out when I get back and have a chance to mess around with the software. Actually, I have the software on this laptop, just no remote to test with.

thanks again.
Post 10 made on Thursday December 15, 2022 at 09:21
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It doesn't matter if the actual devices are not listed in the database, Yamaha & Samsung both have codes that have remained unchanged for decades. You will only be missing commands that are specific to newer equipment (i.e. Netflix button, Music cast button, etc.).

In particular, if you use code 515 under the TV codes. That has the Samsung codes for power 'ON' and 'OFF'. And the codes for HDMI inputs 1, 2, 3, and 4. Which should be all the codes you need.
Create your TV page, that is going to be hidden, and 6 buttons on it. Assign those commands to those buttons.

Then create your AV receiver page (that will be hidden) and start looking thru codes under Audio devices. 1660 has all your inputs and power commands. You'll need to go thru and test many others to find all the DSP (if you want discrete control over those - not necessary).

For your Radio device, use Audio code 1240. That has all your tuner codes you will need for the Yamaha.
Post 11 made on Thursday December 15, 2022 at 11:52
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Also, with Yamaha you have the scene commands which can turn on the receiver, go to that input and set the surround mode for your usage. So, no need for input commands. You can have up to 8 scenes.

Unfortunately, in the database URC hasn't kept up with the naming of the scenes. Many years ago, the scenes were labeled TV, BD, CD, Radio on the Yamaha remotes. Today Yamaha labels them Scene 1,2,3,4 etc. but in many of the URC database codes they are still labeled BD, TV, CD, Radio. I think it is because the codes haven't changed just the names of them on the factory remote has changed. So try those commands if you want the scenes and you don't see Scene 1,2,4,4,etc. in the database.
Post 12 made on Thursday December 15, 2022 at 12:04
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On December 15, 2022 at 11:52, BobL said...
Also, with Yamaha you have the scene commands which can turn on the receiver, go to that input and set the surround mode for your usage. So, no need for input commands. You can have up to 8 scenes.

Not sure if you have ever had this happen before but.... Because the Scene commands are so easy to program (press and hold the scene button until it is saved); I have had customer's kids or friends of the family screw up the scene programming by doing just that.
So I no longer rely on the scene commands. I just send a few commands that will always do what I need it to.
On the higher end Yammy you have a lot more scene presets. Presets that are not easily accessible. So that's fine. But I stay away from using those first 4 scenes because of the above.
Post 13 made on Thursday December 15, 2022 at 18:07
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I always use the higher scene numbers when possible. Some models allow the scenes to be locked. This will only temporarily discourage the kids from tinkering with 1-4.
Post 14 made on Thursday December 15, 2022 at 19:26
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burrism, sent you a PM. Check your inbox.
Post 15 made on Friday December 16, 2022 at 11:14
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I am thinking MX-3000 software would be way behind in its database.

Even with updated CCP I had to create my own Yamaha device from 3 different databases to get inputs (including HDMI, audio and a/v inputs), scenes, and surround modes.

From my notes - Yamaha AVR 1567 or 1438, 1439, 1660
   DSP 579 1271 Zone2 1661
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