I have yet to install one of these and I am curious about something. I am wanting to use this as the go to base station for my customers. My question is, can this be used as rf control only and programmed like a 350? I am thinking it will be smart to install this for the clients who upgrade later with devices with network capability. But use it as a standard base station and not have to utilize it as to control networkable devices.

Hopes this makes sense.

absolutely will work just like a 350 with more capability. However to use 232 you need to use a network controller.

Network controller?

Please explain

KP4000 or MX5000 or MX6000. No 850, 980 etc.

oh. Not sure I understand why that would be. So we can't control 232 with a 980? Thought we could with the 400 base station. Do u mean just not with the mrx-1?

No, the MRX1 can only send 232 when it is transmitted via wifi, which means the 4000,5000,6000. It is not a processor like the 400 that stores commands, it is a very competent MRF350 with sense, relay and 232. The new MRX10 I think will do everything you want, I think, but still waiting for it.

I see. Thanks dave

The MRX10 can only be controlled by the new Total Control remotes TRC780, TRC1280 and keypads TKP100 & TKP2000.

I'm a bit confused by this. Are you saying the upcoming MRX-10 can only be controlled by the MS-780 and MS-1200 handhelds? What about the older MX-5000 and MX-6000? URC's Total Control brochure includes these two older handhelds in it.

I've currently got an MX-3000 along and an MRF-300, with an RFX-250 for narrow band, and am thinking of upgrading next year. I've been thinking about the MX-6000 along with an MRX-10. URC's documentation seems very unclear as to whether these two older remotes will work with the MRX-10. It only says the MRX-10 will work with all Total Control remotes. A bit unclear isn't it? Can anyone clarify?

I believe Joe is correct. Although I don't think it's finalized yet, the MRX10 uses both a different RF (2-way, 2.4 Ghz) and WiFi than the MX-5000 et al. It also has all of the programming in the MRX10, so it works in a different way than the existing products. I asked at CEDIA if it would work with any legacy remotes and was told no.

Mike

Pretty disappointing! It seemed as though the MRX-10 would be the flagship processor but if it doesn't work with the top end remotes (MX-5000/MX-6000) how useful will it be? I suppose the MSC-400 lives on!

I just looked through the literature from Cedia for Total control and it includes the MX6000, 5000 and 4000. In the description of the MRX10 it says expandable via LAN and MRX sub series base stations. I would be surprised if they didn't include their flagship controllers to work with the MRX10. The MS1200 and 780 are only a few hundred dollars, I'm sure they make more money selling the higher priced remotes and would want to sell them with the total control platform.

However the 1200 and 780 only work with the MRX10.

I would aslo be surprised if the MRX-10 only works with the 780 and 1200, however, Mike was told at Cedia that this was the case. I suppose it's possible that he was told incorrectly but you would think that URC would know. Is it possible that by saying legacy remotes they're not referring to the 4000, 5000 and 6000? The Total Control brochure is very unclear on this point. The 4000, 5000 and 6000 are considered part of Total Control and the MRX-10 is supposed to work with all Total control remotes, however, the literature never actually says it works with these three high end products.

Looks like the MX 5000, 6000, and KP4000 wont need to work with the MRX10. I say that because these remotes have IP to pull status from equipment like ip based AVR's and the new network sources from URC. Because the TRC-780 needs the MRX10, I assume that the remote does not have the capacity to access IP/RS-232 features itself; those features are housed within the base station. Looks like the MX series IP remotes will use the MSC400 for added base station features (relays, voltage sensing). I think the TRC-780 and the MRX10 is URC's answer to Control4 rather than a flagship processor...It does seem, however, that by using the MRX1, you will be able to add the 4,5,6000 to a MRX10 environment. This will be handy for the high end theater rooms and high traffic areas of a home (MX5000/KP4000) and for living rooms/guest rooms the TRC-780 and TKP-100 make for a cost efficient solution.

Some specs have changed since CEDIA. The MRX10 can only be controlled by the new Total Control remotes TRC780, TRC1280 and keypads TKP100 & TKP2000.

But maybe you noticed the IR input on the back of the DMS1200...