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MX-980; RF command speed?
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Post 1 made on Thursday January 15, 2009 at 12:02
mdrew
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Not sure how to explain what I’m trying to do, so please bare with me.

I just received a new projector (JVC-RS20). I am using the pre-programmed RS2 commands and they appear to be working OK. For this device, I am using an MRF250 and a flasher due to its location. I can’t use the MRF350 with this particular device, so I can’t tweak the flasher output.

The problem I’m having is the commands for this projector are causing it to repeat itself. For example, when I hit the “menu” button, the menu pops up, and then goes away as if I had hit the menu button twice. If I hit the menu button very fast, the menu with pop up. However, if I do hit it real fast, it doesn’t always pop up. This is causing my main power on / power off macro’s to work only part of the time.

I think I need to change the IR repeats, but not real sure about that. This is the first time I’ve had this sort of thing happen. The repeat is set to 3, as it is with all my other devices.

Is there something else I should do to resolve this problem?
Post 2 made on Thursday January 15, 2009 at 12:25
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I am only experienced w/ the 260. Can you disable the front IR blaster and just use the stick-on flasher only? Also, make sure you have the remote set for RF only, not IR & RF. In other words, make sure the projector is getting the IR from one thing, in your case, from the stick-on flasher.
OP | Post 3 made on Thursday January 15, 2009 at 13:38
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I curently have the IR disabled and am using the flasher only. The location of the MRF makes it impossible to get stray commands from it (in a closet).
Post 4 made on Thursday January 15, 2009 at 14:00
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I'd try using learned commands instead to see if that improves things. They work fine with my RS1 and an MRF-350 on the default setting. You might also try using a number of commands to the RS20 directly via IR to determine if it's the MRF-250 that's the problem.

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Post 5 made on Thursday January 15, 2009 at 19:12
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Have you tried playing with the number of repeats and the "repeat while button is pressed" ?
OP | Post 6 made on Friday January 16, 2009 at 11:03
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No I haven't tried that yet Joe. That's what I was asking my first post. I have always left that on the default setting of 3, for all my equipment.

Is that what the repeat setting does? I'm a little blurry on that. Does it repeat the command per the number of times you set, whenever a button is pushed? What would be the purpose of that feature?

Mike, I would really like to avoid learning commands, if possible. I have had pretty bad luck with learning and leave that as my last option. I'll try it if all else fails.
Post 7 made on Friday January 16, 2009 at 14:34
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I believe so. However, there are a few devices which have to see a certain number of repeats I believe. So if you reduce it to 2 and it does not respond, don't be surprised. At least that's what I seem to remember the last time I had my IR detector hooked up to a scope.
OP | Post 8 made on Friday January 16, 2009 at 22:50
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Thanks Joe. I'll try that first and see what happens.
Post 9 made on Friday January 16, 2009 at 23:20
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Have you tried moving the emitter(flasher) away from the ir receiver of the projector in small increments?

I experience similar overload/multiple command repeats on DTV receivers if I place the emitter on top of the "ir eye" of the receiver.
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OP | Post 10 made on Monday January 19, 2009 at 11:39
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Yes, I did try moving it. It wouldn’t work at all unless it was stuck to the IR sensor window. I also removed the clear plastic from the window, no change.

Yesterday I tried changing the repeat from 3 to 2. No change. I also tried going IR only. That helped some, but it’s still not right. Looks as if I need to try to learn the commands next. Bummer….. .

If that doesn’t fix it, I’ll buy another MRF with adjustable flashers and give that a try.

I should note that I’m fussing over this because it’s not ‘right’. I’ve learned to push the command buttons quickly and I don’t have to mess with the projector controls very often, so it’s not a show stopper. I’m just finicky and don’t like things not working correctly.
Post 11 made on Monday January 19, 2009 at 21:14
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On January 19, 2009 at 11:39, mdrew said...
If that doesn’t fix it, I’ll buy another MRF with adjustable
flashers and give that a try.

If you can't get it to work properly via IR, a different MRF isn't going to help. Always troubleshoot by eliminating the remote as the source of the problem first. I don't even hook up an MRF until I get every command working properly via IR.

If you want to email me, I can give you my RS1 file of learned commands, assuming they're the same for the RS20.

PS - I'm getting an RS20 for calibration and review tomorrow or Wednesday, so I'll see if there's any problems with it and my MX-980.

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OP | Post 12 made on Tuesday January 20, 2009 at 18:25
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Thanks for the candid honesty Mike.

It’ll be a week or so before I have time to try anything else, but I’ll shoot you an email and give your learned commands a try next.

Before you get too involved with calibrating the RS20, you might want to read the calibration thread at AVS first (assuming you haven’t). The CMS is bit tricky. Broke might be a better word for it. However, a lot of guys have put some serious effort into getting it right and their ‘tricks’ may eliminate some greif for you. I had Jason Turk calibrate mine and absolutely love it. I have no desire at all to put the i1 on a tripod and tweak it. One other oddity you’ll find is it will not display BTB or WTW unless you put the projector’s HDMI to “enhanced” mode. I’m not sure if this is a real issue or not, but I ended up leaving it in enhanced mode, then re-calibrating the main contrast / brightness. My eyes may be playing tricks on me, but I find the image to have more pop and depth now.

At any rate, thanks for the help and I look forward to hearing what you have to say about the RS20.
OP | Post 13 made on Tuesday January 27, 2009 at 21:18
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I tried learning commands. It took a few tries, but it now works like it should. When learning, I had to hit the buttons very fast (much faster than normal). Just fast enough.... Trial and error. This projector must have a pretty fussy IR sensor.


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