I have an mx-810. I know there is discrete codes for xbox 360, im using start to turn it on, and what I found for a discrete off to turn it off.

The problem is the 360 must be tracking power cycles, because if you turn it on using the front power button, then off wont work (it thinks its already off)

But if I use the remote to turn it on and off, it works just fine.

Is this accurate? Is there a fix for this? Or do I have to live with it.

I have been struggling for over a year on this, my mx-810 that I know of, has not been set to manage power cycles, at least not that I know off, I have not done anything for it to do so.


Can anyone fill me in.

Read some info on this thread,

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Yes read that thread already.

Tweeter guys old remote codes which were urc like I had tried previously didnt flip, but they still got out of cycle. Instead of flipping if it got out of cycle, you would have to hit on then off to turn it off sometimes. And sometimes to turn it on you would have to hit off, then on.

I have good news, the update must have been recent (my mx-810 updated again last night) but the urc codes for my mx-810 work perfect, and dont get out of cycle. Off is always off, on is always on no matter how I tried to screw it up.

For those of you battling this issue like me for over a year, this is great news.

One more request if anyone can please help.

The xbox 360 codes in the urc website work perfectly, however if I want to turn it off and on manually (I have activity set to power on delay power on) but I noticed for manually turning it off and on the only 100 percent reliable way is to hold down the power on and off.

I tried in the mx-810 to go to 360, failed automation, I set it to I have to hold down the button to power it on and off, but it does not seem to work at all. I have heard someone else that I know mention the option to press and hold the button does not work.

IF anyone can tell me how to get it to work so when I press off it holds it down, and vice versa for on.

My other option is does anyone know what the codes are for it in urc database. IF i have the hex code from the ccf file I could just keep copying and pasting the string in the browser so it keeps sending the command. DOes anyone know how to extract hex from the CCF file, or know urc hex code for power on and power off for the 360.

Please if anyone has any idea, I just want to get my system running perfect and im 90 percent there.

Just incase anyones curious the refrence to it in urc software is Xbox 360 (Aux 408)

I just moved to an MX-980 from a Harmony 890. When using the H890 I found similar issues, and ended up solving my problems by sending the discrete on/off codes twice.

Out of habit, I set up my MX-980 the same way, and it has been working fine. For example, my power_off macro on my Xbox device is

* IR (AUX.408.POWER OFF)
* DELAY (0.1 Second)
* IR (AUX.408.POWER OFF)

and similar for my power_on macro.

Thanks i do have a similar macro/activity set up, but sometimes I turn it off manually, If i could have the hex code I could press off once manually and it will send it out long enough to turn it off.

Is your real name Willis? Has anyone ever told you that you tend to make things more difficult than they really are? :-)




You already said the IR database discrete commands for power ON and OFF not only work but also do not get out of sync if you power cycle the unit via the front panel.

First, use the commands that work. Make the OFF button fire the OFF command twice in a macro if you need to. Make any other button on any other page or any other device do the same if you wish.

Second, copying the hex from that discrete over and over in the UB will not yield you any better results.

I also sometimes turn the device on/off manually, and I do not have problems with it getting out of sync.

Just use the POWER OFF and POWER ON from the database, but send them twice with a small delay in between as I showed above.

Ugh, no they do not get out of sync ever anymore.

Yes the codes work fine, this maybe hard to imagine but teaching people such as my wife and kids, if something does not turn off, after a button press they freak out.

I just want the hex to send out a longer signal, or better yet for urc to fix there software, and there failed automation screen to actually work, where it asks you if you do a normal press, two button presses, or you press and hold.

Sadly it does not work.

The issue with the 360 as mentioned in your activity is you sometimes have to hit it twice, or hold the button in for about 5 seconds I just want a single button press to do this. That is all, not asking for a miracle here.

Sorry you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

The codes work

Device doesn't get out of sync

I told you copying the hex over and over will yield no better results.

You clearly are out of your league with the programming and this is one of the main reasons this device is intended for professional programming. Yet you cast blame elsewhere and refuse to listen to people helping you.

If you would listen to us you'd realize that placing the command in the macro twice accomplishes what you want if your device needs them to be fired twice.

And just because you have a P-OFF command on the LCD screen doesn't mean you have to leave it there for use. Move the command to a hidden page, create new button on visible page that contains a macro like we have been talking about all along, call it xbox off and call it a day.

I do not mean that you should hit the power button twice.

You should instead program the button with a macro so that when you press the button once it will automatically send the signal twice. I'm guessing you just don't know how, so I'll try and walk you through the process...

I'm guessing that right now you have it sent once. If you select the button you use for turning the power on, then look in the macro window, you probably see

P/ IR (AUX.408.POWER ON)

If you see that, then click that line with the mouse and it will highlight. Then hit Control-C (for Copy), then hit Control-V (for paste). You will now have two commands in there, which sends the POWER ON twice. It should look like

P/ IR (AUX.408.POWER ON)
P/ IR (AUX.408.POWER ON)

Now you need to put a tiny delay in between them to make it work more reliably. To do this, click the second one of those POWER ON lines so that it is highlited. Up above you'll see two rows of icons. On the left of the second row you'll see an icon that has a yellow clock with blue plus sign on it. Click that to create a delay. When you click it you'll get a little popup window called "Delay Setting". In the field for "Enter Delay Time" enter 0.1, and then click OK. Your macro will then look like...

P/ IR (AUX.408.POWER ON)
DELAY (0.1 Second)
P/ IR (AUX.408.POWER ON)

And that's it for the Power On macro.

Now to do Power Off, select the Power Off button, and repeat the process above so that the macro reads...

P/ IR (AUX.408.POWER OFF)
DELAY (0.1 Second)
P/ IR (AUX.408.POWER OFF)

Then reprogram the remote and try it out.

FYI my last universal- NEVO SL, did the exact same thing, so i think its more an xbox issue, not a URC issue. IF you are still having issues my easy work around would be to put a power toggle on the main xbox activity page. problem solved!! it seems to me you may be looking for a bullet proof solution, if so hire a pro, or go back to harmony as they are very family friendly.

edited for niceness. :-)

"Device doesn't get out of sync"

Um yes the xbox does, and so does my ps3 (go to schamrtstuff.com, the forum there discusses how easy it is to get out of sync if you turn the ps3 on manually or with the controller instead of using the remote)

Also your quote from the link that someone in this thread provided earlier about xbox 360 powering off and on cycling, this was your reply.

"It seems these commands might be model specific as to whether or not they become out of sync with user front panel presses (stop doing that?)."



Also stealth also confirmed the issue.

And stealth I have no issue programming, everything is fine, everything works, I just wanted a single button press to turn it off manually when I hit power off in the activity, but again sometimes it seems it needs to be hit twice to turn off.

Yes there are ways around it, if it has to be done such as a power toggle, or me creating a new activity for 360 off that is fine, but I wanted to investigate this first.

My setup is fine, I dont think you guys understand, everything is working, I just wanted to know if it was possible to send a command twice hitting a button once, without creating an entire activity.

Per urc failed automation which shows this option but simply wont work.

If there is no other solution then so be it, please dont lecture me I have everything running fine now, I dont need a lecture on how to do an activity, I have an entire layout of activities from multiple setups with tv's and projectors working great now.

I had one simple question and since the urc software even shows failed automation page that it can send two signals by pressing the power off or on button once, I figured there might be a work around, or a fix so it worked when I selected it. I guess not.

I never said the codes dont work, I said right away the codes work fine, it was simple, i was asking about the failed automation page which states (you have to hold the power button down or double press to turn it off) This is all in the page that states " Check that the mx-810 is pressing buttons the same way you do" I selected power on button and also selected power off, and selected the option that I have to press and hold this device power off button to turn it off, and also tried the option which stated ("You press the power off button twice to turn the 360 off")

This is of course when IM in an activity and JUST want to turn the 360 off by hitting the power button in the activity page instead of having to hit it twice or to create an entirely new activity to turn it off. Not a big deal at all, I was simply asking.

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Again not a big deal theres other things I can do to get around the issue, like create another xbox 360 activity for off. But again I just wanted to see if there was a way to send the off signal twice with a single button press while in an activity, like it shows in the urc software.

What Im talking about just to be perfectly clear is if your in tune up, go to change power method for a component, then select 360, then go to the automation page, then hit failed automation.

Then you get the options for power buttons, wether you want the mx-810 to press power off and on normally, or if you have to press the power off button twice to turn it off. This is all on the page that states " Check that the mx-810 is pressing buttons the same way you do"

Here is another thread that covers exactly what IM saying!

Tweeter guy this is why I wanted the hex code also.

Try to read this before replying to me. And show a bit of respect in your reply, because Im not clearly placing blame on urc, this is a known problem with urc software covered in this thread. Maybe you should read before getting on my case.

[Link: remotecentral.com]