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I just noticed my LIVE UPDATE button is grayed out
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Post 1 made on Friday November 21, 2008 at 07:24
Steve D
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Anybody have any input on that? I haven't called the company yet. It seems that it is only the case with "complete control suite"

Thanks in advnce

Steve
Post 2 made on Friday November 21, 2008 at 14:01
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I believe it's because they are phasing out the CCS software to replace it with something else.

IMHO, the CCS software was a waste. It mananged the URC software as well as my windows taskbar does.

I'm hoping they're actually coming out with ONE piece of software that will program all the remotes, similar to the RTI software.
Post 3 made on Saturday November 22, 2008 at 09:21
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On November 21, 2008 at 14:01, 8ate8 said...
I believe it's because they are phasing out the CCS software
to replace it with something else.

IMHO, the CCS software was a waste. It mananged the URC
software as well as my windows taskbar does.

I'm hoping they're actually coming out with ONE piece
of software that will program all the remotes, similar
to the RTI software.


Yep, Complete Control Suite is history. Look for "Complete Control Program" in the very near future beginning with the MX6000.
OP | Post 4 made on Sunday November 23, 2008 at 17:46
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Thanks Guys
Post 5 made on Sunday November 23, 2008 at 19:09
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My live update button on my MX-900 editor is still working. I don't think I know what the Complete Control Suite is. Is anything going to change for me?

Thanks.
Post 6 made on Sunday November 23, 2008 at 19:14
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CCS was a packaged program that loaded all of the individual programming editors. It was intended for installers who needed to program multiple remote models from URC. I never even bothered with it and just keep individual editors on the desktop. A couple of guys I worked with used the CCS and had some problems so I never used it. Keep what you have and you'll be fine.
Post 7 made on Monday November 24, 2008 at 19:17
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It was a memory hog for what should have been a simple program. And it didn't make anything easier...if you had a folder with shortcuts to each editor you got the same functionality.

Only advantage was being able to update all editors at once.

Jeffnebraska, no, nothing will change. CCS was basically a desktop launcher for the editors.
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Post 8 made on Tuesday November 25, 2008 at 09:25
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So, what's the Complete Control Program (the replacement for CCS)?

Is it a single editor that handles the entire line of remotes? Or something else?

Sean
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Post 9 made on Tuesday November 25, 2008 at 14:46
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Yes it will be a single software program similar to the RTI ID program, but better :-)
Post 10 made on Tuesday November 25, 2008 at 19:20
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Well, we showed this at CEDIA, so I can talk about it a little.

Complete Control Program is the editor for the MX-6000. As we bring new models into the line, generally they'll be included in CCP instead of getting stand-alone editors.

Don't ask about older models... it might happen... it might not... and that's really, honestly, all I can say.

Best regards,
Dale
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Post 11 made on Wednesday November 26, 2008 at 01:45
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Dale,
if the CCS is gone and the CCP won't include old models...what the heck? It almost seems like URC is saying that the CCS didn't do much of anything! If I don't need CCS, just need the individual programs, why was CCS made?
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 12 made on Wednesday November 26, 2008 at 02:35
Daniel Tonks
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As far as I know, CCS was an initial response to the desire for an all-in-one editor. At best it offered some additional convenience: switch back-and-forth between editors, and keep them up-to-date without multiple Live Update sessions.

For me it had a never-resolved date issue and constantly complained about XML errors that it itself had just finished messing up.
Post 13 made on Wednesday November 26, 2008 at 13:43
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On November 25, 2008 at 14:46, tweeterguy said...
Yes it will be a single software program similar to the
RTI ID program, but better :-)

Good luck with that.
"You can't fix stupid."
Post 14 made on Wednesday November 26, 2008 at 14:26
Darnitol
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Yes, CCS was originally intended to be a launcher for the various editors. We had bigger plans for it, but the change in direction we made regarding 2-way about a year ago rendered most of those plans pointless. As has already been noted, we are in fact dropping CCS, and mostly because it doesn't offer quite enough utility to warrant the extra install. Yes, it does keep all your editors updated from a single install, but it never evolved to have the seamless hand-off between editors that we wanted.

Complete Control Program (which will be on Control Room by the time you eat your turkey) isn't like CCS. In its launch incarnation, it is merely the editor for MX-6000. But unlike MX-Editor, the architecture of CCP is extensible, allowing us to add other remote models within the same framework.

So when I say "don't ask" about the older remotes, I merely mean "don't ask when. Some of them will be added to CCP, some won't. But on launch day (today), CCP only handles MX-6000. You've still got your standalone editors to handle all the other remotes. Anything we move to CCP in the future is all gravy.

Best regards,
Dale
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Post 15 made on Wednesday November 26, 2008 at 16:29
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Dale, thanks for the history behind this -- very interesting!

How did the 2-way change in direction kill the CCS plans? And what was the change of direction?

Just curious!

Sean
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