I don't mind taking the whacks, personally i think that good things come out of product controversy. Back to the original point of this forum, here is a link to the press release in CRN today, [Link: customretailer.net] please copy and paste. FYI the COO of custom builder USA was with Lutron for a lot of years. Also they only service custom homebuilders that represent roughly 3000 homes a year that start over $500,000 and go to the millions. Large opportunity if you are a dealer in the southeast. Also their folks chose our product and approach over the competition. Was a large focus group and 90% of them have done projects with amx and crestron.