On February 5, 2009 at 00:55, davidcasemore said...
Hitler was a christian
I'm going to try and dig in on this just a bit.
There is the Bible and there is religion.
The Bible in its purest form has some merit. it has some fascinating stuff in it besides. Okay, it's got so many pages, there is going to be plenty to pick apart. There's plenty to get mad about if you want to. Like, "Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die" - who wants to hang with that? :^)
Take the ten commandments. Not killing, stealing, lying, etc - we could do without those "sins", yeh? Would we be in far less trouble if none of those "character flaws" existed? (Rhetorical question, no?)
So in purest form if a man happened to follow the ten commandments without adding his own agenda, he'd be a decent guy. Some of us may work for people who try to live by the "golden rule" and it's not such a bad thing. I'd rather have a bunch of them and never meet the one who wants to withhold the last 10 per cent of his bill.
Okay, so that's just a thumbnail by which I would advertise that the Bible has enough guidelines for ordinary decent living that a non-agenda motivated person who follows it could be decent.
NEXT TOPIC: RELIGION. Religion muddies the waters, not just a little bit, but considerably, perhaps to the point where they can never be cleaned up. Man starts with a reasonable framework for honest living but excuses certain behavior and creates his own set of rules. Hello, all sorts of trouble. "Sin" never stays still - it only increases, so the "religious" man adds more rules and excuses more wrong behavior. Religion will never get my vote for being a good thing.
Hitler had his own "religion". He was no Christian, period. You can call yourself a Christian, but unless you live by the teachings of Christ, you are not a Christian. You can call yourself a custom installer, but if you hack your way thru a job and leave 30 per cent of it undone and the client is suing you, you are not a custom installer, you are a hack. The world is full of people who say they are something when they are not. Hitler was not a Christian by Christ's or the Bible's standards. So I don't care what you or anyone says, his actions betray him as a liar.
You could write a small book about that but his actions say it all.
Last edited by Tom Ciaramitaro
on February 6, 2009 03:44.