smokinghot we all living in sin in that I am not perfect. I sin. That's not what Tom and I are about we don't have to be. That's not what God is about. He's not hell fire and brime stone. Since none of are us perfect there are people that inject their own agenda in with what the Bible says. The attrocities that have been done through the ages in Jesus' name are all examples of an outside agenda. You mention the money train I was watching TV with my son he was maybe six one Saturday morning and we were flipping channels and one of those types happened to be on an my son - you have to remember he was only about six - asked why is he always asking for money! This passage applies to them also "They claim to know God, but they deny him by what they do." Titus 1:16. The hypocrasy is from the people not what the Bible says in it's entirety.
