Wow!!!!

The landscape has really changed. They are really pushing everyone to just use a tablet or Smart Phone. Unfortunately, that doesn't work for my 4 year old and 10 year old and it seems like such a pain to have to pick up a smart phone, slide to unlock, load the app and then.... whatever else happens. It is so much simpler to just pick up a remote and hit buttons. I can't believe there is so little call for a normal remote control.

Anyway, my Harmony 700 is on its very last legs and I don't know what to replace it with. I have never really liked the way the buttons felt on it but the simplicity of use has kept it as the main remote for the last 4 years. I have thought about just getting a 650 but, like I said, I just don't like the feel or the build.

Me requirements are:
1 - Activity Based - My family can hit the Watch TV button and everything pops on, same for a Movie. I need a simple one-step button push to move between activities.

2 - Backlit

3 - Real buttons for the numbers and DVR controls. I don't want to have to look at some LCD to find the right button to push. I don't mind having the screen but the one on the 650 has been largely ignored its entire life.

The R50 looks good but everything says it is Device Based. I understand Macros but I don't know how well they are integrated into the remote. The photos on Amazon make it appear that the keys next to the screen can be programmed with multiple activities and as long as they can be put into always on mode it should work.

The NevoC2 looks a little more sleek but I don't see any activity buttons and it looks like the support may not be there.

Logitech Harmony Smart Remote Control undoubtedly has the features I want and lacks the screen (that's a bonus). I also like the 'DVR' button. It appears to have 3 activity buttons on the top which is exactly how many I need but I am not crazy about the double press for skip/seek/ffw/rew, the price, general Logitech build quality and I can't seem to find anything, anywhere that says whether or not the remote is backlit.

One thing I really can't find is the additional Up/Down button that is right in the middle, below the screen on the Harmony 700. Guess I'll have to learn to live wihtout it.

Can't beat the C2 for $16 (about a 90% discount). It most certainly has Activities (just no dedicated buttons) and the by far the best support of the lot since you have direct contact with the author of the software. Remote Master gives it far more capabilities than the 700 or R50.

See Harmony comparison at the end of my FAQ:
[Link: hifi-remote.com]

That link looks awesome.

For $16 I would buy one just to try. Where do I get it for that price, though?

Edit: Found and ordered on eBay. Thanks.

OK, I have this Nevo C2 and I am excited to set this thing up. I ran through the setup.ev-rc.com just following the commands out of the box and it doesn't do what I want and is unsupported. Now I can't even get back into the setup process.

So, I am looking at Remote Master. I have it installed but as I go through the Wiki, it is way above my pay grade. I think I see what is being done here but I think I lack the technical background to do this. The intro says that the setup is right-click based but I have yet to find a field that reacts to anything when I right-click it. I choose my remote and the device that I want (kind of) and then....... what?

Are there any help forums or anything like that?

Post your RM questions at hifi-remote.com forums, and someone will answer. Have you done the firmware upgrade on ez-rc yet? That's the first step.

Mdavej,

Can you tell me if this remote on ebay for 16 bucks, can be programmed on ez-rc?

Also can I learn the code for 18 different devices, and put all 18 learnt codes into the Nevo C2, to control these devices?

One more, I am getting my IR widget in the mail soon, which I will like to use to learn the remotes codes as I press each button. After I get these data from IRScope, what software program should I use to send this data to the Nevo C2?

Thanks

1. Yes

2. Yes. But learning is rarely required. Why do you think none of your 18 devices will have codes already? If you do indeed have to learn a device, you'll convert it to an upgrade and delete the learns.

3. There is no way to "send" any codes from IRScope to the Nevo. You simply note all the learned codes and enter them into RM manually. It's actually much simpler to learn directly on the Nevo, then all you have to do is press one button, and the upgrade file is created automatically (in most cases).

What devices do you expect you'll need to learn? I doubt there is any need to learn anything, especially not 18 devices.

BTW, the Nevo already has codes for thousands of devices, and RemoteCentral, Hifi-remote, etc. have codes for thousands more. You can add many more than 18. But you can only assign 18 to device buttons. You could have many more devices on the remote and mix commands from all of them if you wanted.

Please excuse my lack of knowledge with reference to the abilities of the Nevo C2, and thanks for the enlightenment, and better understanding.

1).My objective is to replace all my existing remotes in the living room, and use the Nevo C2.

2). To be able to build bin files for my Slingbox, which has my i828 Android TV box attached to it, running OpenELEC. I also run the T10 and M8 boxes, all running OpenELEC. I will like to attach these at times for testing.

In OpenELEC the remote.conf files for these boxes are all different, and I will like that the Nevo C2 be able to learn the remotes codes to control these boxes.

I was not aware that the Nevo C2 can learn the codes in my remote.conf files by itself without the need for the IR widget data from IRScope, imputed into RM.

However, I will use the IR widget data from IRScope and entered it into RM in order to make the bin files for the Slingbox.

With the above said, is there a very good tutorial you can point me to as to getting started with the Nevo C2, which I have just ordered.

Bye the way, the one I ordered is the 15G which I take it can do all the 18G can do except for RF signals part, which, at the moment, I have no need for.

Thanks

The remote.conf files may be different, but the IR codes are likely all identical and already known.

I don't understand how your are going to learn these commands at all. Does each box come with an IR remote or the ability to output IR signals? Back when I used a Raspberry Pi running OpenELEC, I simply used an MCE IR dongle. The codes were known, so I didn't have to learn anything. But it's impossible to learn from an IR dongle anyway. I'm not familiar enough with these Android boxes to know their IR capabilities.

However, since remote.conf files are just LIRC, you don't need to learn anything at all. Just decode the files with IRScrutinizer and enter the data into RM.

If you can indeed send IR to a widget, then you could also send it to a C2 just as easily. The widget is nice to have, but the C2 can accomplish the same thing.

You are correct about the difference between the 15G and 18G. However, unlike the C2, the 15G is only 15 devices. You need 18, correct? You ordered a C2 and not a 15G?

NEVO C2 Universal Remote with Color Display Black for AR ARRX15G

This is the heading of the one I just ordered.

Each unit does have there own IR remote, hence in OE using MC I can see what key I pressed and manipulate it at will, then making the remote.conf.

Shifting the remote.conf from one box to another I am able to make all different box use the same IR remote, even they are totally different, and OE for one cannot be written to another as the drivers in the kernel are different. Basically what I want Nevo C2 to do, and eliminate this remote.

I will see if as you said to decode the remote.conf file in OE and load the result into RM.

They have two different models in their description. Hopefully the will send the Nevo instead of the AR if you need all 18 devices. They are otherwise identical.

As you've already confirmed, each remote's commands are identical. So that's one device on the Nevo, not several. They will likely match one of our existing devices, probably an MCE, Ortek or NEC1 media center device, so no learning will really be required, aside from a few codes to confirm our assumptions.

Mdavej, I to got the Nevo C2 and did the update on EZ-RC website, my win8.1 Laptop got the Call Fail error, even with the registry modification to (0), but was able to update it with my Win 8 laptop.

Was I required to go through the whole EZ-RC setup or just the firmware upgrade? All I did was the firmware upgrade.

Also on the Nevo C2 there are no device listed, it is blank. I take it I must load all the devices I want.

Just the firmware. But you'll find it easier to add some activities and devices while you're at it. RM has a bit of a learning curve.