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karman hardon citation 5.0 a/v controller
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Post 1 made on Wednesday August 4, 2010 at 22:28
abcdpxy
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I am a new to this .Any sugestion to let my citation 5.0 a/v worked with remote control as I lost the origenal one.
I searched files in this site and find the hex code of this remote.
([Link: remotecentral.com])
what is cheap and easy way to have a remote control( which one )to input these codes and set up this a/v controller?
thanks

abcdpxy
Post 2 made on Friday August 6, 2010 at 03:29
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Your profile says you are in China, so I'm not sure what remotes are available to you.
One approach would be to buy a used Logitech Harmony (there are lots of models), and then send the hex data to Logitech and have them make those codes available in Logitech format.

Another approach would be to get a remote made by Universal Electronics, and manually program every button by entering a 5 digit EFC. I suppose that process would take 30 minutes or so. I can generate the EFCs from the Pronto Hex data for you if you can get one of the remotes listed below.

Here are the list of remotes which we know can be customized to control your Citation:

Radio Shack
15-2104
15-2138
15-2144

OneForAll
URC-10820 B00
URC-10820N
URC-4080
URC-6131
URC-6690 Hybrid
URC-6820 B00
URC-8203
URC-8820 B00
URC-8820N
URC-8910
URC-9910
URC-9960
URC-9960B01

Various Cable/Sat companies
Atlas4 ATL0
Atlas4 CS400102
Atlas5 1025
Atlas5 3000
Atlas5 3032
Atlas5 3033
Atlas5 SA_7
Balboa-Dolphin
Cat48-Anthem
Cat48-Outlaw
Comcast 1058 jp1.1
Comcast 1067 jp1.2
Comcast 1067BX3 jp1.3
Comcast 1068 jp1.1
Cox URC-7820B
Motorola DSR551 URC-2050

RCA
RCRP05B
RCU810

Phillips
REM400-B00
REM400-B01

Others
Replay-V1
Replay-V2
Toshiba CT90047
Vizio URC-66700ABA
Vizio VUR8
Slingbox - JU

Some of these are quite old designs.  The RCA RCRP05B and OneForAll URC 8820N/10820N are fairly new designs.  In the USA, these remotes are available new for $20 or less, but sometimes much more cheaply on the internet.
OP | Post 3 made on Saturday August 7, 2010 at 21:34
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thanks 3FG,
I found one for all URC-8910 on the internet in china and will try to get one ,but I don't know it is the same that you recommanded for my citation 5.0,([Link: item.taobao.com])
Will you help me to generate the EFCs from the Pronto Hex data of citation 5.0 av controller or let me know how to do it.

thanks

abcdpxy
Post 4 made on Sunday August 8, 2010 at 02:39
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Yes, that is one of the possible remotes.  I'll put together the list of EFCs in the next day or so.

The 8910 manual.  You can see how the picture matches.
See the LCD instructions here: Programming EFCs.  Use B. To program a code.

The 8910 design is about 10 years old and uses an EEPROM.  It does not have setup codes for some newer equipment, and in some instances there is no way to manually program it to control newer equipment.  But it will work fine with the Citation. 

Zone Vol+

084

Zone Vol-

088

Zone Vol Mute

090

Zone Off

086

Display

107

Watch

230

Listen

234

Cancel

231

Balance

246

Dolby

054

6-Axis

186

Stereo

053

Party

057

Cust1

123

Cust2

182

Cust3

052

Vol -

249

Vol +

229

Mute

101

Standby

105

Menu

232

up arrow

037

down arrow

043

left arrow

169

right arrow

041

Zone1

216

Zone2

214

Zone3

218

Zone4

085

Zone5

089

Zone6

087

Center On

122

Center Wide

118

Center Boost

120

Mono

119

Reset

233

Pan

165

Hi EQ

180

Trigger1+

185

Trigger1-

121

Trigger2+

217

Trigger2-

153

Base+

102

Base-

235

Analog Pre1

167

Analog Pre2

166

Analog Pre3

039

Analog Pre4

038

Analog Pre5

103

Analog Pre6

100

Digital Pre7

104

Digital Pre8

106

Digital Pre9

171

Digital Pre10

164

Digital Pre11

168

Digital Pre12

170

Last edited by 3FG on August 8, 2010 13:05.
OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday August 11, 2010 at 12:29
abcdpxy
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Thank u 3FG,
I have got the remote URC-8910,and tried to enter 3 digits of the FECs code using "keymover " setting function. But
none of them work after I tried the Vol+,Vol-and standby keys .
I am not sure I have make the setting properly but I will check it again.
Do I need set device code before or which device should I select AMP,CD,VCR or some others for my citation a/v?

thanks
Post 6 made on Wednesday August 11, 2010 at 14:21
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My mistake-- yes, you need to use setup code Video (DVD or VCR button) 0582. The setup code must have been assigned before assigning the 3 digit EFCs.

I believe that you could also redefine the e.g. Audio button to be of Video type, if you want the HK to be controlled after pressing Audio or CD.

Last edited by 3FG on August 11, 2010 18:58.
OP | Post 7 made on Thursday August 12, 2010 at 04:07
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Its ok now .I have tried several buttons that all worked fine.
By the way do you have any suggestion about beo4 remote for my beocenter 9000 system .Can URC remote with the code function as beo4 remote ?.

thanks
Post 8 made on Thursday August 12, 2010 at 16:38
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Yes, the 8910 can be upgraded by playing a WAV sound file through your computer speakers while holding the remote close to the speakers. I'll prepare the necessary WAV file (probably tonight), and locate the instructions for downloading the upgrade.

What other components would you like to include? Each time a WAV file is downloaded, it overwrites previous downloads.
OP | Post 9 made on Thursday August 12, 2010 at 21:58
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I made mistake not beocenter 9000.
My systerm:
1. boesound 9000 6-cd/tuner use beo4 remote.
2. beomarst 6500 tuner/amplifier use beolink 7000 remote.
3. beomarst control panel av9000 tuner/cd/cassette use beolink 7000 remote.
I am not sure above of all can be controlled by beo4 remotes.
I just want to have these to be controlled by remote.

Thank u!
Post 10 made on Thursday August 12, 2010 at 23:19
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Wow, I'm sorry I asked! B&O signals are hard to decode, so the link here is only to a BEO4 remote which was used for a BeoCenter 9000. I don't know if it will work for you or not.  If this works, then we may be able to add more components or buttons.  Or maybe not.

After you get this uploaded into your remote, you'll need to assign 0799 to an Audio device button.

WAV file and button assignments (most functions aren't assigned.)


Upgrade instructions.
OP | Post 11 made on Friday August 13, 2010 at 11:21
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Downlaoded wav file into remote but read "error" .Someone mentioned that there is a mirophone inside remote on back of the board but after I opened back cover of the urc-8910 there wasn't a phone (I got cheap one).The J1 was connected nothing.I think J1 is for mirophone. Are there any components can replace this mirophone by connecting J1 or somewhere.
Can JP1 cable load beo4 file to make upgrade If I DIY a JP1 cable.

thanks
Post 12 made on Friday August 13, 2010 at 12:02
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I think the modem is really a magnetic pick up coil which is (normally) soldered to the printed circuit board. To see this, the remote case has to be split apart. You probably should try to download more than once, and to make sure that you are using a speaker with a voice coil.

There should be a 6 pin (2 rows of 3 pins) connector visible inside the battery compartment. That connector can be used with JP1 cable to upload upgrades, including one for a BEO4. It is separate from the modem coil.

Note that the 8910 is a JP1 remote, and not JP1.2 or JP1.3. The cable needs to be specifically for JP1.

There is a website for JP1 enthusiasts, and it would probably make sense to post there (linking to this thread). I don't own a 8910, but probably some posters there do. The site also has instructions on how to build cables, and links to buy cables.

Last edited by 3FG on August 13, 2010 12:39.
OP | Post 13 made on Friday August 13, 2010 at 20:01
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Followed the instruction speaker with coil I have downloaded many times while played wav file but read "error "every time.l
Later I searched related website and found some post about modem of 8910.There was no magnetic pick up coil on printed circuit board after the remote case was splited apart.
I will talk to the dealer to see if he has one with the modem or posible to diy one . I will make a JP1 cable for late upgrade whatever. After JP1 cable can be used I will try to download file of Beo4.

thank you for all these insructions
Post 14 made on Friday August 13, 2010 at 22:03
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A cable is far better than a modem. If you going to invest any time or money, the cable is the right way to go.
OP | Post 15 made on Wednesday August 25, 2010 at 04:07
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I made JP1 cable to upload 8910 for beocenter 9000 with success and have 0799 code setup but not working on my B&O systerm.I don't know what the IR frequency of beo4 operate and what the frequency of the urc-8910 can handle it?
Some ccf/pcf flie for beosound 9000 I found in file section of this site need to be decoded to an upgrade file for KM or RM uploading . Can 8910 do it or should get some pronto remotes for higher frequency operation.Any suggestion appriciated.
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