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1st X-10 attempt successful!
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Post 1 made on Wednesday October 8, 2003 at 11:22
bdjncox
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I know I'm starting off small but I bought a IR543 and a simple lamp module then programmed my MX-500.

How cool is this? Now I gotta find more X-10!!!!
Post 2 made on Wednesday October 8, 2003 at 12:01
MX700X10
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Caution: X10 is really addictive!
Post 3 made on Wednesday October 8, 2003 at 12:07
gulash
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Will any universall learning remote work with x-10 products?
Post 4 made on Wednesday October 8, 2003 at 14:38
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I don't think there are any that will directly. Learning remotes are IR while X-10 is RF. There needs to be something in the chain to convert the IR to X-10 such as an IR543 (single house code) or an IR543AH (all house codes). Or, an Ocelot or similiar more sophisticated conversion system.

I certainly don't know about every remote on the market, so if there is an exception to the above, I'm sure someone will jump in with a correction. Things are advancing so fast, I can't keep up.

Deane
Post 5 made on Wednesday October 8, 2003 at 15:22
AndrewZ
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OneForAll (sometimes sold as Radio Shack) remotes have X10 codes built in.
Post 6 made on Wednesday October 8, 2003 at 16:37
Deane Johnson
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AndrewZ, I'm curious, do they transmit the actual X-10 RF signal or do they transmit an IR code that must be converted?

Deane
Post 7 made on Wednesday October 8, 2003 at 16:51
Deane Johnson
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Doing a little further research, it appears to me that this remote actually transmits the X-10 signal.

[Link: smarthome.com]

Anybody know for sure?

Deane
Post 8 made on Wednesday October 8, 2003 at 23:20
Bill E.
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Deane,

All the X10 remotes transmit in both X10 IR and RF.

We just added the PUR09 (SH's 4006). [Link: homeautomationnet.com] of course for less than their hot deal.

You still need an RF transciever PAT01or the IR543 if you are going IR to control X10 . Nothing will control X10 directly. If you think about it, how could a signal get in sync on your power line directly without some sort of intermediate device, would be an pretty neet trick.

Bill
www.homeautomationnet.com
Post 9 made on Thursday October 9, 2003 at 08:11
AndrewZ
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On 10/08/03 16:37, Deane Johnson said...
AndrewZ, I'm curious, do they transmit the actual
X-10 RF signal or do they transmit an IR code
that must be converted?

Deane

Already answered - all the remotes transmitting IR, so IR-to-X10 conversion device is required. Some remotes also transmitting RF, but the signal is different from the RF signal used with X10; remote is talking RF to the base, base is transmitting IR.
Post 10 made on Thursday October 9, 2003 at 12:14
Deane Johnson
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I hadn't payed much attention to these all in one remotes since I use a Pronto and an Ocelot. This PUR09 looks like a nice remote for combination X-10/IR work and certainly appears to be a good value.

Deane
Post 11 made on Thursday October 9, 2003 at 15:08
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All-in-one remotes require a transicever,like the PAT01, to control X10. The Transceiver Module works in conjunction with a handheld wireless remote controller such as the X-10 PRO 16-Plus Remote (PHR02 or PHR03) to control lights and appliances from up to 100ft away, even through walls. As well as its built-in switched outlet, the Transceiver Module controls up to 15 additional X-10 modules via the powerline. The transceiver Module can also be controlled by other X-10 powerline controllers.

[Link: homeautomationnet.com]
Post 12 made on Friday October 10, 2003 at 21:52
G50AE
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You might consider getting a "Sundowner" so you can use x-10 to have the outside lights come on at dusk and off at dawn.

You might also want to get one of the x-10 "alarm clock" devices so you can have your coffee pot and kitchen lights come on in the morning when you are getting ready for work.

I am sure the folks here can think of other x-10 projects. If you ever need help getting ideas to further your x-10 adiction, we'll be glad to help.
Post 13 made on Sunday November 16, 2003 at 16:08
Dewayne Newell
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I have an Ocelot...best X10 investment I've made. I'm working on an intelligent home security system that can tell that it's me getting out of bed and going to the kitchen to get a drink of water in the night and not sound the alarm. Motion detectors in every room. If movement originates in bedroom, at ease. Etc. Cool stuff!


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