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Topic: | 12 V mini lights effecting remote control? Help! This thread has 30 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 30. |
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OP | Post 16 made on Wednesday February 21, 2001 at 23:59 |
Bill E Historic Forum Post |
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OP | Post 17 made on Saturday March 3, 2001 at 02:00 |
pgodden Historic Forum Post |
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Hi Bill, I installed a XPS3 today on the mini lights. I was lucky enough to find one locally which saved me some time. Anyway I have a problem, the switch wont respond to any OFF commands from either the Pronto or Activehome directly, I can turn it off manually and on with the X10 stuff but not OFF! All the other receivers in the basement seem to work fine just this one annoying problem...
Any Suggestions? bad switch?
Paul
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OP | Post 18 made on Saturday March 3, 2001 at 11:36 |
Bill E Historic Forum Post |
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Paul, Sounds like it could be noise or a weak signal (switch on the other phase). Does it work with your IR543 plugged into an outlet on the same circuit as the switch? Try the same command from your IR543's buttons plugged into the same outlet as the active home. What happens? Without using a signal analyzer it is really hard to tell what’s going on. It really is not that likely the switch would recognize and on code and not an off. Bill www.homeautomationnet.com
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OP | Post 19 made on Saturday March 3, 2001 at 13:21 |
pgodden Historic Forum Post |
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I have a phase coupler installed, a leviton one, but I will move it anyway... there are 2 other regular X10 modules installed in that same gang, that work fine so I am thinking that it isnt the signal strength, however will give it a try. So you think a bad switch is out of the question?
Paul
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OP | Post 20 made on Sunday March 4, 2001 at 12:32 |
pgodden Historic Forum Post |
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Update
I have removed the lights from the circuit and all seems to work as it should, so it seems it may be noise. Any easy way to deal with this Bill?
Paul
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OP | Post 21 made on Sunday March 4, 2001 at 13:55 |
Bill E Historic Forum Post |
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Paul can you tell me what exact types of lights you removed that got it working, and how you removed them? Bill www.homeautomationnet.com
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OP | Post 22 made on Sunday March 4, 2001 at 21:04 |
pgodden Historic Forum Post |
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they are two sets of low Voltage lights using small (I assume electronic) transformers, both sets utlize MR11 bulbs. One set has two bulbs the other has three. I had set the switch to work on a standard receptacle and had the light kits plugged into that. Actually the receptacle was fluke as I originally had something else in mind for lighting.
Paul
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OP | Post 23 made on Monday March 5, 2001 at 00:15 |
Bill E Historic Forum Post |
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Paul, There is a wire-in noise filter, the X10Pro XPF, which can be used to filter out the noise from the electronic transformers. The only other option is to change to less offensive magnetic type. It sure sounds like the transformer is the culprit though. They have a known history of being noisy. Bill www.homeautomationet.com
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OP | Post 24 made on Monday March 5, 2001 at 07:30 |
Pgodden, there are many x10 dealers in Canada, why don't you deal with them...you know, support your own country for a change. If you don't know of any, why don't you do a search. I take it you do know how to do that?
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OP | Post 25 made on Monday March 5, 2001 at 11:05 |
pgodden Historic Forum Post |
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robby..
What are you talking about? If you check my above posts you will see I bought my switch locally in Canada!! I dont quite understand your snide remarks even if I did buy the switch in the US.. where I might add the price is a lot less, unless, you are a Canadian Dealer!
Paul
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OP | Post 26 made on Monday March 5, 2001 at 22:34 |
pgodden Historic Forum Post |
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Bill..
Sorry for getting sidetracked with that last post... I phoned the local guy today and he said he had the filter, another 50 bucks :(, if I change the transformers to magnetics, would I still need the switch or will a regular X10 switch work?
thanks
Paul
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OP | Post 27 made on Tuesday March 6, 2001 at 19:14 |
Alain Caillet Historic Forum Post |
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Paul, I just pickup your thread now. The ON ok and OFF NOT working is most likely because when the 12 V lighs are ON , you now have their transformer load across the line. So your next OFF command will have to overcome the noise/loading introduced by the transformers which was not the case when the 12 V lights were off. Filters may be necessary ... Alain
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OP | Post 28 made on Tuesday March 6, 2001 at 20:54 |
Bill E Historic Forum Post |
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Paul, When you ditch the electronic transformer you can use the PCS switch or the X10Pro XPDI3 and have dimming capability. You still need the minimum load rating on the switches though. As long as you string of 12V lights draw 40-60 watts it would work. You could probably put them on the same transformer. Bill www.homeautomationnet.com
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OP | Post 29 made on Wednesday March 7, 2001 at 11:01 |
pgodden Historic Forum Post |
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Thanks All, I amm going to go to Rad Shack and get a transformer this weekend...
Paul
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OP | Post 30 made on Sunday March 18, 2001 at 11:42 |
pgodden Historic Forum Post |
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Bill..
I went to Rad shack and also looked on Radio Shacks web site. Seems the only 12v transformer I can find is 450ma ,yet the electronic transformer on one of the sets of 12v light is .5amp/60 watt output. What do I need to look for in this regard to match up the proper magnetic transformers. I did notice the Radio Shack has a 12.6volt tranformer with a good size more amperage but am unsure if the 12.6 will burn things out.
Thanks again for any help
Paul
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