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Post 1 made on Monday October 31, 2005 at 19:24
Glackowitz
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Hello all, I have a simi wild but basic system going in and need to control the power logic od a DVD player

OK here is what we have, its in a restaraunt....

All areas are getting IR from a RP6

Bar area South side: using TV speakers and a T1 remote
Samsung lcd tv 32"
Samsung SIR-TS360 HD sat
video switching done on LCD tv

Bar Area North Side: Using Same Remote as south bar
Mitsubishi 61" Plasma TV
Samsung HD sat
Integra 6.5 reciver -> feeds 4 speakers in Bar ceiling
video switching done by receiver

Dining Room: has a 2nd T1 remote for this area
This area has a 2nd cabinet
Mitsubishi 61" plasma
Video switching done on denon receiver
Denon 1705 reciever....feeds a switcher for 3-4 pr speakers
Directv H10 HD sat...going to have to add a Sensor to monitor power on this as I have not found Discretes for this...finding not available

All 3 room share a single DVD player -> Integra DPC 7.5 changer

What I need to do is when any room powers on the DVD powers up, and if another room powers up it does not send a power command, so its on whan any room is on and stays on until last room goes off

Sounds simple but I am getting myself to confused with Flags on this..maybe Im trying to hard??

Any help would be great, can send the program if any would like to look at what I have
Glack
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Post 2 made on Monday October 31, 2005 at 21:27
Proggieus
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Use nested flags in a system macro
create a system macro as follows

if flag 1 is set
_____________________________
else
if flag 2 is set
_____________________________
else
if flag 3 is set
_____________________________
else
"power off command"
____________________________________________
you want each flag test to be in the else line of the flag test before it
Set each flag as the corisponding rooms turns on, and when you power off each room clear its flag then set a .5 second wait then call to system macro. if any of the flags are set it will never execute the power off command. but if the are all off it will. hope it helps

Proggieus

This message was edited by Proggieus on 10/31/05 21:44 ET.
Post 3 made on Monday October 31, 2005 at 21:34
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screwed it up
Post 4 made on Monday October 31, 2005 at 22:24
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Will give it a try..Thanks

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Post 5 made on Monday October 31, 2005 at 23:26
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The DPC7.5 has discrete power commands.
OP | Post 6 made on Monday October 31, 2005 at 23:32
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Thanks Proggieus, I have it similar to that, But I have the 2nd and 3rd in the first section and not in the else.

Should I set the flags when dvd is selected and clear it when sat is selected??

Mark65, all of the equipment has discretes except the owner supplied H10 sat receiver

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Glack
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Post 7 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 01:11
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Leave the Sat receiver on or use video sensor module... and use the discretes for the DvD.
Post 8 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 02:06
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On 11/01/05 01:11 ET, AndyM said...
Leave the Sat receiver on or use video sensor
module... and use the discretes for the DvD.

I second this, Forget the flags just use the discrete on and off codes for the DVD they should be in the master file list under integra, you can use the DCP 8.3 or 8.5 power codes, they should work just fine.
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Post 9 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 08:56
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just using the discreets is not enough. he only wants the dvd to shut off if none of the other rooms is using it. so we have to use flags to determine if any of the rooms are in dvd mode. Glackowitz--- yes set the flags when you power on or switch to dvd and clear them when you power off or switch a room.


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OP | Post 10 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 09:25
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Proggieus, I will set the flags when dvd is selected and clear when the sat is selected or area is turned off. I am begining to dislike Directv..got used to the Samsung,Zenith, Newer hughes with discretes, and now they started making them without discretes and kind of messes things up again

Thanks for all of the info guys

Glack
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Post 11 made on Wednesday November 2, 2005 at 00:27
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Here's another approach:

Connect all the receiver's to the RP6 using voltage sensors. Whenever ANY area's receiver is turned off, check to see if ANY receiver is still ON. If no receivers are on (ie : None of the voltage ports are ON), turn off the DVD...
...couple a thumb tacks and a stick of double sided tape should hold this baby up...
Post 12 made on Wednesday November 2, 2005 at 00:34
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On 11/02/05 00:27 ET, fluid-druid said...
Here's another approach:

Connect all the receiver's to the RP6 using voltage
sensors. Whenever ANY area's receiver is turned
off, check to see if ANY receiver is still ON.
If no receivers are on (ie : None of the voltage
ports are ON), turn off the DVD...

SEE! There's a guy thats thinking outside the box, good suggestion! What about using the video sensors?
OP | Post 13 made on Wednesday November 2, 2005 at 00:48
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-On 11/02/05 00:27 ET, fluid-druid said...
-Here's another approach:

-Connect all the receiver's to the RP6 using voltage sensors. Whenever ANY area's receiver is turned off, check to see if ANY receiver is still ON. If no receivers are on(ie : None of the voltage ports are ON), turn off the DVD...


There is no receiver on the 2nd bar system, its just a TV with Componet in for the Sat and S vid for the DVD, and using the tv speakers. But that would be and idea to put in place

I think its all worked out with the flags, Proggieus got it rolling(and a programming example) and I got a call back from RTI software eng. and all is looking good. Now to upload and test in a few days to check it all out...waiting for the guys to finish wiring it and 2nd T1 to come in...I will be using a vid sensor on the H10 receiver
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OP | Post 14 made on Thursday November 10, 2005 at 22:59
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Proggieus, it worked, I uploaded it today and all was well. I had to move the Set flags up to the First Else command to set it properly but it all worked.

Turn on room 1 then 2 then 3 then turn off 2 then 1 then 3 and DVD went off

Dvd powers up on any room on command and stys on until last room goes off

Was so much easier being there to test things

the ons look like this:

JW1 DVD on (system command)( area 1 dvd selected)
if flag 1 is set--------------------------------

Else-------------------------------------------

Set flag1
if flag 2 is set--------------------------------

Else-------------------------------------------
If flag 3 is set--------------------------------

Else--------------------------------------------
DVD power on


the sources change, sat and dvd, as well as rooms, JW2 and dining area

on the power off just cleared the flag after the area off command and did a check of flags with the Off command in the last else

Works great

Glack
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Post 15 made on Friday November 11, 2005 at 01:36
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Be careful and use discrete commands for all your On and OFF commands.

If ANY zone wants to use the DVD, make sure you turn the DVD on (usually just with the play command) everytime, and don't rely on flags too often.

Predict what could go wrong if people manually control a TV, Receiver or DVD player (potentially in-advertantly reversing your flag logic)....
Keep it as simple as possible and you should be okay.
...couple a thumb tacks and a stick of double sided tape should hold this baby up...
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