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Post 1 made on Thursday June 28, 2018 at 06:08
rick.fronda11
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Hi Dear Experts,

I need to discuss one thing, during creating cml library file using RTI IRPRO capture code Device, there is only one source button on remote so how can we include HDMIs inputs, AV inputs, VGA inputs etc. Actually using the original remote we press first source button and then using up down key we select the source but how can we read these sources using RTI pro capture code device?

Last edited by rick.fronda11 on June 28, 2018 06:20.
Post 2 made on Thursday June 28, 2018 at 07:55
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Bottom line is... you canít! At least NOT from the original remote. Chances are pretty good itís already been done for you! Do a search for your make and model in the discrete code hunter section.
OP | Post 3 made on Thursday June 28, 2018 at 08:31
rick.fronda11
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If we cant not learn source codes then whats the use of this IRPRO Capture code device.

Actually I am using Axess tv Model is TVD1801-13, I have learned all the remote buttons using IRPRO Capture code device but only the remaining is source button. Actually using that single source button how can I add discrete codes for all the sources HDMIs, VGA, AV etc. Please experts provide me some solution actually I have seen this issue for the first time during code learning. Can any one help me that how to learn source codes please please please
Post 4 made on Thursday June 28, 2018 at 11:04
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The source IR command is a single IR code that toggles sources. The code never changes. You can learn it in multiple times and all it will do is toggle sources. Any learning device you use will do the same thing. The TV manufacturer doesn't always provide multiple input buttons, but they may provide it in some form of IR protocol.

For example, Sony, Samsung, LG - they all are the same. All remotes have a single "Source" button. Learning that button, and it will simply toggle the sources, just like the factory remote. However, these companies also provide separate IR codes via the protocol which doesn't need to be learned in but manually entered in pronto form into the IR library manager.

You should always stick with models that have discrete Power AND Input codes. I would contact that TV manufacturer and see if they have the commands in another format, or even make provisions for discrete input commands.
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OP | Post 5 made on Friday June 29, 2018 at 15:54
rick.fronda11
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Thank you dear Boss!

You are the best & I am so much satisfied after reading your reply. God Bless you. Live long. Sir please if you will get the discrete source codes then please forward me complete cml file of this Axess tv Model is TVD1801-13, I shall be very thankful to you.
Post 6 made on Friday June 29, 2018 at 19:28
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Hi Rick, I replied to your PM, I also did a quick search on the TV and it seems its a vey basic 13" TV at best, with pricing in the sub $150.00 range its very unlikely to have discrete codes.
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OP | Post 7 made on Wednesday July 4, 2018 at 01:16
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Sir thank you so much for your feedback. Actually this TV is the client requirement so we need to use this at any cost along with 3 or 4 sources & RTI should be used. Kindly provide me some solution regarding how to use discrete source codes for this TV. Kindly help me Sir, Already you supported me a lot & I am really thankful to you because you always help me & get me out of complications.
Post 8 made on Thursday July 5, 2018 at 00:56
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On July 4, 2018 at 01:16, rick.fronda11 said...
Sir thank you so much for your feedback. Actually, this TV is the client requirement so we need to use this at any cost along with 3 or 4 sources & RTI should be used. Kindly provide me some solution regarding how to use discrete source codes for this TV. Kindly help me, Sir, Already you supported me a lot & I am really thankful to you because you always help me & get me out of complications.

When Televisions don't have discrete codes (and you need them) you have the following choices:

- Buy an HDMI switcher so you can switch that instead of the TV. Obviously, purchase one with discrete codes from a leading manufacturer.

- Use a workaround, which will be crude, but it will work. Send a macro with a channel up command which will always change the input to "TV", followed by as many input commands you need to get to the HDMI input you desire.

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OP | Post 9 made on Thursday July 5, 2018 at 09:12
rick.fronda11
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Dear Sir RTI Vincent,

I am really thankful to you for helping me out, I really appreciate it that you told me to use switcher that will change the hdmi inputs. Bundle of thanks sir, But can you please more elaborate this,

"Send a macro with a channel up command which will always change the input to "TV", followed by as many input commands you need to get to the HDMI input you desire."

I want to try it this way but I need you to explain a bit more. Is it something like sending a macro with channel up 1 time then TV will be selected, Again If sending a macro with channel up 2 times then it will select 2nd source? Am i right sir or how can i do it?

Last edited by rick.fronda11 on July 8, 2018 02:18.
Post 10 made on Thursday July 5, 2018 at 17:38
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rick.fronda11,

First, find a sequence of buttons (using the factory remote) that will always go to the source that you want.

Each TV is a little different in this respect. Sometimes a "Channel Up" or "Channel Zero" or any number will force the TV to attempt to use the antenna. After you issue this antenna command, then you can use the "Input" or "Source" button to step through the TV inputs because the "Input" button will always step through the inputs in the same 1-2-3 order. Without first giving the antenna command, you cannot guarantee what an "Input" command will select.

For example, the sequence for selecting HDMI2 might be:

"Channel Up"
"Input"
"Input"

For selecting HDMI3, the following might work.

"Channel Up"
"Input"
"Input"
"Input"

Try various combinations using the factory remote until you can always select the correct HDMI input.

Now, you can build your macros using what you learned above.

Note that you may need to insert some delays between commands. If this is the case your macro might become:

"Channel Up"
"Delay"
"Input"
"Delay"
"Input"
"Delay"
"Input"

Each TV is different. You might need some or none of the delays.

Finally, you may need to wait a few seconds after turning the set ON before you can issue any input commands. Some TV's start up very slowly and will require waiting more than 10 seconds after a Power ON command before any other TV commands will be accepted.

Edit:

You may find that "Input" followed by a digit will select a specific source.

In this case the macro for HDMI1 might be:

"Input"
"1"

Also, in your experimentation be sure to try inserting "Enter" or "OK". The magic bullet could be:

"Input"
"1"
"OK"

Last edited by buzz on July 6, 2018 08:09.
OP | Post 11 made on Sunday July 8, 2018 at 03:08
rick.fronda11
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Dear Sir RTI Vincent,

Thank you so much for the detailed information. As I tried it from the factory remote, when I press CH+ or CH-, its open the menu, when I exit from the menu & click on the source button from the factory remote then it shows antenna source.

But CH+ or CH- doesn't force the TV directly to attempt to use the antenna. As it always opens the menu first and after exiting from the menu forces the TV to attempt to use antenna source.

So what the solution of this issue?? Is it the normal condition as I can use it or not?


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