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New Install - xp6 or xp8
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Post 1 made on Friday September 13, 2013 at 05:49
Stillwater
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We are building a new house and need something to run the av equipment. We have looked at a few options but like the rti system with surfir remotes. We are looking to have a 8x8 hdbadet matrix with the following inputs 2 sky cable boxes, 3 x apple TVA and a blu ray player and 6 screens as outputs. Also 2 of the screens will get sound from av receivers.

The local rti installer talked about the xp6 being a good fit. Is this correct or would I be better with the xp8? I seem to require a lot of connections to turn all these things on and off, up and down.

I don't know enough about these types of products yet but am keen to get a better understanding of these products and how they work from independent sources so I know what I am talking about and the salesman.


Cheers for any help
Post 2 made on Friday September 13, 2013 at 11:25
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With that size of system, I don't know why he would not have spec'd an XP-8 to begin with. Just on looks alone, the XP8 is rack size while the XP6 is not, not to mention all the I/O advantages.

Maybe he is the best IP programmer out there :) (surely I am not)
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Post 3 made on Friday September 13, 2013 at 11:35
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So you have 6 screens ? I assume they are all IR - or are they RS232 ? IP control ?

You have 6 sources - if they are all IR - You are out of IR ports already, including the screens.

Without full knowledge of the control method of all the displays and sources I cannot comment with certainty.

Remember the SurfIr has NO IR output so there must be either IR control direct at the TV via IR - RS232 or IP.

2 AV Receivers ? Assuming they are RS232, possibly IP.

What about the HDMI Matrix is that RS232 ? If so your maxed out on RS232 ports.

I feel that this system with an XP-6 is either at it's max or will be very quickly when another source or display gets added.

This can be overcome with a PCM-4, but why go this route when you can put in an XP-8s ?

Before the XP-8s came out I would put in XP-6 and PCM4's as the XP-6 is faster than an original XP-8.

I think you might need to speak to your RTI installer to make sure he knows the amount of devices and the method of control for everything.

Like i said more information is needed...all the above is assumptions only.

I would personally install an XP-8S on this system from the information you have vaguely given alone.
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Post 4 made on Friday September 13, 2013 at 12:30
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This installer is a magician how can he use an XP 6 to such a project ?
XP8s is the only way
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Post 5 made on Friday September 13, 2013 at 23:43
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I recently did a AD-8, 8X8 HDMI Matrix, 7 TV's, 3 sat boxes, 2 dvd players, Apple TV , CD player and a Zvox speaker bar all on an XP-6 with a ESC-2, PCM-4 and IR block. Used 7 T3V+ remotes, 4 RKM-1+ keypads

But with the addition of the 2 receivers I would go for the XP-8s whick would also leave room for any more additions..Lighting, HVAC, audio server and such
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Post 6 made on Saturday September 14, 2013 at 03:01
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You can do a lot with an XP-6. 6 addressable IR ports each of which can drive 4+ emitters, plus two dedicated serial ports, plus IP control capability.

6 screens sounds like 6 zones two me, which matches up with 6 mpio ports. The source equipment is minimal. the switcher is serial, looks to have IP but no driver that I know of. In fact why is this switcher being used at all other than getting something that is cheep? Which makes me think that the budget is very tight which is why the installer is going with the XP6 over the 8s.

The XP6 can certainly do the Job but it doesn't leave a lot of room for growth other than through expansion modules.

Bottom line, if you have the money get an XP8s, if you don't go with the XP6.
however, get a real matrix switch like a zektor, Snap AV or anything else that has a decent track record and a functional control driver.
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Post 7 made on Monday September 16, 2013 at 08:09
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One big factor I'm not sure others mentioned is memory! The xp8 has an sd card for more enemies, which the xp6 doesn't have. This is typically only needed when you have several rtipanels in the system or large rtipanels (this includes iPad, iPhone, iPod touch, android phones, and android tables.
Post 8 made on Monday September 23, 2013 at 22:43
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Are all of the sub rooms centralized to one rack? Maybe he's planning on adding slave processors to multiple local systems.
Post 9 made on Friday November 18, 2016 at 11:28
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No need to be a magician, as well said Super member can add 4 devices emiters for each ir`s ports , also can use RS232 ports as well IP Ehternet port.
Total devices connected many of them
Post 10 made on Friday November 18, 2016 at 16:26
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On November 18, 2016 at 11:28, borras723 said...
No need to be a magician, as well said Super member can add 4 devices emiters for each ir`s ports , also can use RS232 ports as well IP Ehternet port.
Total devices connected many of them

I'm sure your skills go as far as creating a time machine to go back to when this post was relevant too.
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