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Pro Control Software - first thoughts
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Post 1 made on Saturday December 31, 2011 at 00:25
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Just got the opportunity to play around with the Pro Control Software - although I have only nosed around for about an hour and have not received the formal training/demo, I am quite impressed. I know it's often referred to as a wizard, but I don't think that term does it any real justice. In fact, it is quite powerful, customized easily, and has a very slick interface. For those who have not seen it yet, think of what would happen if you combined Prodigy Composer with Integration Designer and Nevo software. Very well done, and if Wizards are not your cup of tea you can really dig down into the layers to customize your experience. Again, extremely impressed with the intuitivity of the interface and what you can build on.

Obviously software is only part of the product but I am really looking forward to seeing how the remotes perform on the field. I was worried that the software would be "dumbed down" too much to make it useful in custom applications, but I quickly realized that is not the case.

Great job on the software!
Post 2 made on Saturday December 31, 2011 at 00:30
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Just signed up to get access. I will have my hands on products next week I hope. Just samples are shipping with stock coming by the end of January (with the typical RTI buffer not included).

I am really looking forward to this to compete with entry level C4 systems since i ditched Prodigy.
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OP | Post 3 made on Saturday December 31, 2011 at 10:06
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I think Prodigy will have the edge in system components and overall power when used with System Builder, and also keep in mind this is a way different price point. My overall review was based strictly on programability which I was surprised. My expectations were that of a wizard based "harmony-like" design, but the overall look and feel has elements that will feel familiar to ID users, with property like boxes like Neveo, and design elements like Prodigy Compooser. We will have to see how the products perform, butI am optimistic.
Post 4 made on Saturday December 31, 2011 at 10:53
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On December 31, 2011 at 00:30, longshot16 said...
I am really looking forward to this to compete with entry level C4 systems since i ditched Prodigy.

How would this even come close to Prodigy? 2 remotes and a base station? I can see this going up against URC and even then they said product mid January but didn't specify what year!
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Post 5 made on Saturday December 31, 2011 at 12:20
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I only sold prodigy I have very basic systems. I stepped right up to full line for all others. Prodigy is dead once the programming is locked down. Do not sell it and and thinkthe you can use ystem builder and Simpl for ever.
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Post 6 made on Saturday December 31, 2011 at 12:49
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We're a full line Crestron dealer. I just don't see how a product with 2 remotes and no Touch Panels, keypads, dimmers, Tstats can really be compared. I'm looking forward to ProControl as the pricing looks awesome! Don't see anymore MX5000's in our future!
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OP | Post 7 made on Monday January 2, 2012 at 04:59
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I agree with kgossen, I think it's a little too early in the evolution of the company to put them in Crestron in the same sentence. However, Crestron did take a nice shot at RTI and others in the lower price point category with the introduction of Prodigy, so it's fair to say that products like ProControl are in response to that. I think Prodigy is a very good system and it certainly seemed to motivate C4, URC and RTI looking at the product introductions over the past two years. Either way, it's great for our industry and control in general when new players are coming up with new products and flavors vs. going out of business or shutting down operations, which seemed to be a big trend lately. I am always excited to see a different perspective through products and am certainly impressed with the software.
Post 8 made on Thursday January 5, 2012 at 15:42
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Prodigy and pro control is not a fair comparison... two different ideas.

Pro control is meant to suck up the logitech harmony and low end URC market...


RTI is meant to take on crestron from prodigy to full line. And if you are good with RTI and have the SDK then you can control at crestrons level. RTI doesnt have the sources and amps but the control is there. They just need to fill gaps in their in wall line. like a 2 gang audio keypad with a 2line display would be awesome!
OP | Post 9 made on Thursday January 5, 2012 at 16:09
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Every line needs to revolutionize the intercom business and put these stale and old companies out of their misery.
Post 10 made on Thursday January 5, 2012 at 18:36
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On January 5, 2012 at 16:09, Total Control Remotes said...
Every line needs to revolutionize the intercom business and put these stale and old companies out of their misery.

+1

Crestron does intercom. The ST7 would be a nice control with intercom.
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Post 11 made on Thursday January 5, 2012 at 20:11
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My point with the Prodigy portion was this: prodigy was just an experiment for them and they landed dealers that could sell the full line sku's. With them banishing it to disty only and eventually cutting off simpl it's dead to me. Most of my prodigy clients were topped of at prodigy. This was before RTI had their mobile app so I never even considered it.

It was an easily sell to give them so much for so little (relatively) an show them that the xp processor was their gateway to the full line.

The pro control if it works will eliminate my need to sell Urc all together. It will also allow me to replace the some of what I was using prodigy for in one room solutions. I am totally at a loss as to what I want to do for d/a prodigy level systems.
Full line RTI makes a lot of sense but I invested some much time and effort (not to mention money) into the blue koolaid that I really dread doing this all over again.

I have wreaked my brain trying to fine a total replacement and right now I am excited about this potential partial solution.
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Post 12 made on Thursday January 5, 2012 at 20:20
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Can some one give me info on ow to sign up for this? I remember months ago when pro control first came out and ignored it.

On the pro control website it says you have to be approved first. Where do I sign up? I don't see anything on rti's website.

Thanks
Post 13 made on Thursday January 5, 2012 at 20:37
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Pm me an email address and ill forward the email
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Post 14 made on Thursday January 5, 2012 at 21:48
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On January 5, 2012 at 20:11, longshot16 said...

Full line RTI makes a lot of sense but I invested some much time and effort (not to mention money) into the blue koolaid that I really dread doing this all over again.

I have wreaked my brain trying to fine a total replacement and right now I am excited about this potential partial solution.

Sign up to the RTI forums. You will get a ton of help over there. Also PM with any other questions if need be.
Post 15 made on Friday January 6, 2012 at 10:07
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I played with it about 1/2 hr so far. I'm impressed by the ability to do a customized layout. Nice price point. It looks like I can use my IR and 232 libraries from Integration designer.

It looks like you can setup to do software upgrades automatically.

I didn't know if Pro Control might be aimed at DIY market. It's obviously not rocket science but as far as I can tell an average DIY would struggle with the programming. It looks like the software will be dealer only, password protected??

I signed up for the webinar Mon/Tues/Wed so I'm sure we will get more info then.
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