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Post 1 made on Tuesday January 26, 2010 at 15:07
motech
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i have it working with flags on xp8,

i created a system macro on xp8 called vol pop up set
and another macro called vol pop clear.

i create macros on the vol buttons on T3-Vz
linking the system macro - set, then sending vol up command,
then linking system macro clear.

it works,
it pops up, adjusts the volume and all.
its not smooth.

it doesnt stay on the screen,
i cant hold down the vol up or down to ramp up ..

any advice ?
Post 2 made on Tuesday January 26, 2010 at 18:54
jimstolz76
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Make sure you have repeats set on the actual volume commands WITHIN the macros.  It should go:

set flag
repeat volume up as long as button is held
clear flag

(maybe a .5 sec delay before the popup goes away if you'd like)

From what I've seen it isn't real smooth...  maybe better on the in-walls than the handhelds but I haven't gotten a chance to play with that yet.
Post 3 made on Tuesday January 26, 2010 at 19:08
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motech i did the same thing cuz the homeowner wanted the vol to stay longer and I had the same problem. I never found a fix. I talked to tech support and they didn't have an answer . I think i'm going to stop using the pop-ups cuz if u have more than one zone changing every flags for every item in pop ups took for every. I would try a 0-100% in top corner. i use it for lighting and it works great.
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Post 4 made on Wednesday January 27, 2010 at 22:10
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try putting your volume commands on the button(not in the macro) and also create a macro on the button to set and clear your flags. This will solve the ramp issue. For the popup timing out you can add a "pause until button is released" command in the macro on the volume button. You can take it a step further and have the popup stay on screen for a few seconds after you release the volume button by creating a macro on the xp8 to clear the flag.

Example:
XP8 clear flag macro:
delay 3 seconds
clear volujme popup flag

Volume button macro:
set volume popup flag
pause until button is released
execute xp8 clear flag macro

This will leave the popup on screen for 3 seconds after you stop ramping the volume, similar to an OSD volume bar from a receiver. Good luck...
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Post 5 made on Thursday January 28, 2010 at 08:21
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On January 27, 2010 at 22:10, joe sexton said...
try putting your volume commands on the button(not in the macro) and also create a macro on the button to set and clear your flags.

This sounds like a very good idea. I'm remembering it for some oddball situation somewhere sometime. No sarcasm meant, either -- it's great to remember that a button can have a command and a macro on it.
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OP | Post 6 made on Thursday January 28, 2010 at 08:31
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i already have the volume command on the volume botton.

vol up botton:
system macro - set vol flag
driver command - volume up
system macro - clear vol flag

if i do pause until button is released,
and then the client does volume up
by pressing it repeatedly instead of holding it up . .
then what would happen?

i gotta try it out when i get on site ..
interesting solution.
Post 7 made on Thursday January 28, 2010 at 19:27
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if a pause until released is sent then it would still work with multiple taps of volume as the xp8 has separate macro and IR engines, meaning it can be running a macro and executing separate ir/rs232 commands. meaning if the command is on the button and not in the macro the volume will still work and resend the macro which would reset the delay before the clear popup flag is issued, basically the popup stays on the screen for however many seconds you delay for after the last button tap.
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Post 8 made on Saturday January 30, 2010 at 16:37
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On January 26, 2010 at 15:07, motech said...
i have it working with flags on xp8,

i created a system macro on xp8 called vol pop up set
and another macro called vol pop clear.

i create macros on the vol buttons on T3-Vz
linking the system macro - set, then sending vol up command,
then linking system macro clear.

it works,
it pops up, adjusts the volume and all.
its not smooth.

it doesnt stay on the screen,
i cant hold down the vol up or down to ramp up ..

any advice ?

I played around with this a lot when the new 2 way came out. Seemed like a really cool perk. Tried adding delays, moving commands around and finally decided that it was more important for the volume to work properly than to have a little cool pop up that does not work, and got rid of it. If you want volume indicator I would suggest put it at the side or top of the page and do not associate it to flags. The problem is if the ZB loses communication for a split second, and it will, the volume command will quit repeating and then you have to press the volume button again, and again, and again.
Post 9 made on Monday February 1, 2010 at 00:23
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I think I found a good way to make the volume pop up work smoothly, in fact it works better than the sample.

Program the volume command or driver command to the volume button as normal.
Set up system flag.
Set up 2 macro's on the XP8. The first macro will simply clear the system flag. Set up the second macro to first set the volume flag, then add the first macro that was set up and set it to run in 5 seconds. I also added another instance of the first macro to stop any pending macros (before the 5 second instance) so that a multiple press of the volume button will restart the 5 second delay.
Set up a macro on the volume button to run the second macro.

Works great.
OP | Post 10 made on Tuesday February 2, 2010 at 10:29
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On February 1, 2010 at 00:23, Timber said...
I think I found a good way to make the volume pop up work smoothly, in fact it works better than the sample.

Program the volume command or driver command to the volume button as normal.
Set up system flag.
Set up 2 macro's on the XP8. The first macro will simply clear the system flag. Set up the second macro to first set the volume flag, then add the first macro that was set up and set it to run in 5 seconds. I also added another instance of the first macro to stop any pending macros (before the 5 second instance) so that a multiple press of the volume button will restart the 5 second delay.
Set up a macro on the volume button to run the second macro.

Works great.

sounds great ill try that . .
OP | Post 11 made on Wednesday February 3, 2010 at 13:31
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On February 1, 2010 at 00:23, Timber said...
I think I found a good way to make the volume pop up work smoothly, in fact it works better than the sample.

Program the volume command or driver command to the volume button as normal.
Set up system flag.
Set up 2 macro's on the XP8. The first macro will simply clear the system flag. Set up the second macro to first set the volume flag, then add the first macro that was set up and set it to run in 5 seconds. I also added another instance of the first macro to stop any pending macros (before the 5 second instance) so that a multiple press of the volume button will restart the 5 second delay.
Set up a macro on the volume button to run the second macro.

Works great.

worked perfectly !!
you are the man . .

some notes -
- i set mine to 3 seconds delay instead of 5.
- assign volume commands to buttons directly, not in macro
Post 12 made on Monday February 22, 2010 at 20:19
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Timber / Motech

I've read this a number of times but am struggling to follow.

Can someone please spell it out a little clearer.

Thanks.
Post 13 made on Thursday February 25, 2010 at 22:20
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On February 22, 2010 at 20:19, karmann said...
Timber / Motech

I've read this a number of times but am struggling to follow.

Can someone please spell it out a little clearer.

Thanks.

I'll give it a shot...

(1) Set up a flag on XP8- call it vol pop up or whatever
(2) Set up a macro on XP8- call it volume clear; on this macro you will clear the vol pup up flag- nothing more
(3) Set up another macro on the XP8- this time call it set vol pop up; on this macro (a) set the vol pop up flag that you created (b) Drag over the system macro for "volume clear" and set it to cancel any previous instances (c) drag over the same system macro for "volume clear" and this time set it to run in 5 seconds (or whatever you like)
(4) On the remote's volume button, (a) set up a macro and drag over the system macro "set vol pop up" and then(b) drag over the IR code from your library- you can enter a command and a macro on a single button

By doing this, the IR command is issued (and repeated) from the button press and the macro runs separately off the XP8 processor without interferring w/ the IR repeat


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