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Taking Zigbee Outdoors
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Post 1 made on Tuesday December 15, 2009 at 12:13
lexiphanic
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Hey everyone

Doing my first RTI 2-way setup this holiday season.
I've ZM-24s set up in such a way that every area in the house
seems well covered. Using the counting driver, I don't skip
anywhere in the house that a remote would likely be used.

The only difficulty comes in when I try and take a remote outside
or to the garage. At that point it seems like I cross a threshold, the
remote loses signal and only occasionally manages a connection while
outside. There is a garage, a patio, a deck, and a three seasons porch
that I would like to have good remote access for.

Anyone else run into this? And if you did, did you find anything that
minimized or eliminated this problem.
Post 2 made on Tuesday December 15, 2009 at 13:01
brandenpro
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The only thing I could suggest is adding a 433 ant and 433 remotes for those zones.

I have a job with a pool area that if I was to use zigbee on I would have no way to connect to the system. You should be able to hardwire to a zone that is outside of the mesh network to create a "hotspot".

Deal Breaker!
Post 3 made on Tuesday December 15, 2009 at 13:50
scottedge267
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I hope you are aware that the remotes are "locked" to the initial antenna it sees when rebooting or sleeping after 20 minutes. This maybe your problem with week signal if the remote is locked to an antenna farther away from the garage, etc.
Post 4 made on Tuesday December 15, 2009 at 14:56
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I noticed the same "threshold" you have.  That's a good way to describe it.

I have a house that had a ZM24 on the 2nd floor.  When I walked through the Playroom door (at the far left end of the house) it would stop working.  One step back and it was fine.  Then when I went to the MBR Bath (far right end of the house) it would stop working as soon as you crossed the doorway.  Again, one step back and it worked fine.

I was chalking the Playroom up to an electrical subpanel that was near the doorway, and the MBR Bath I chalked up to the HUGE mirrors in the room; one of which ran along the same wall as the door.

Ended up with two ZM24s on that floor.

Long live 433!!!
OP | Post 5 made on Tuesday December 15, 2009 at 15:45
lexiphanic
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Not really a dealbreaker imo.

You just need to understand what your limitations are and work around them.

We'll probably end up putting a 433 antennae somewhere where it can reach all the zones that the ZM-24s can't.

I think the benefits of 2-way far out-weigh the limitations.
Post 6 made on Tuesday December 15, 2009 at 17:51
jimstolz76
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On December 15, 2009 at 15:45, lexiphanic said...
Not really a dealbreaker imo.

You just need to understand what your limitations are and work around them.

The REAL problem is that they didn't release this info until over a month after the product was on the market.  It did NOT work the way we were told it was going to to work.  Personally, I wasted DAYS troubleshooting problems that turned out to be just "how it works".  After I wasted all that time they came out with a Zigbee troubleshooting tool and instructions on how to test it.  Aargh.

"Oh by the way, it doesn't work the way you think it does.  Did we forget to mention that?"


I would spec Zigbee in a single room system right now, but would be very careful of what I told the customer it could do.
Post 7 made on Wednesday December 16, 2009 at 08:27
Knightwing
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Reminds me of the original T2 with the IRF-6.

It works perfect in this chair, but not so much in this one.
Post 8 made on Thursday December 17, 2009 at 16:07
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On December 15, 2009 at 15:45, lexiphanic said...
Not really a dealbreaker imo.

You just need to understand what your limitations are and work around them.

We'll probably end up putting a 433 antennae somewhere where it can reach all the zones that the ZM-24s can't.

I think the benefits of 2-way far out-weigh the limitations.

I hope you realize that no single remote communicates to both ZigBee and 433. The outside remotes are 433 anyway, so 433 outside and interior ZigBee zones makes sense.
Post 9 made on Thursday December 17, 2009 at 21:02
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the fact that you cant hard wire them just doesnt make sense.
wireless jumping from floor to floor is just not gonna work well is some really large homes where the rack is in the basement.


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