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Stand Alone Vs. System Macro Question
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Post 1 made on Friday October 9, 2009 at 19:05
winesmile
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I'm learning and loving RTI, but not really sure when I should be using a system macro or a stand alone in my macro.

There is that message on the System Macro editor that says "this should be used only for special situations, etc."

But I've seen many systems that have tons of system macros.

What got me started on this is I'd like to program a "Please Wait" screen and this can only be done in Stand Alone.

I just need a bit of education that's all....

Last edited by winesmile on October 26, 2009 19:40.
Post 2 made on Friday October 9, 2009 at 19:32
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I run as much as possible on the processor.

the only things I have on the remote are volume, transport, and channel macros.

Everything else is set up as a system macro.

In large and complicated projects, it makes things easier to keep track of, and makes changing one command easy, instead of tracking down every instance.
Post 3 made on Friday October 9, 2009 at 22:09
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Yeah, what he said.
The thing thast's not obvious at the start with Please Wait screens is that you have to assign a time period to them on the remote that corresponds to the time it takes to run the macro on the processor.

Once the system macro has started, it runs, but the remote doesn't wait until it's done to move on.
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OP | Post 4 made on Friday October 9, 2009 at 23:04
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Got it.  That makes sense to me.

But am I correct in thinking that all IR info is being sent from the processor right?  Is there ever a time where something is spitting out from the hand held like an URC remote?
Post 5 made on Friday October 9, 2009 at 23:10
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Sure, do a large distributed HD system.
Remote is in the room with the TV, gear is all in a rack somewhere else.
If you didn't manage to make sure the TV is being controlled by the processor too you would use a combination of commands. The button would be in stand a lone mode to send IR directly to the TV and "system" macros to operate the gear in the rack.
OP | Post 6 made on Friday October 9, 2009 at 23:42
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Sure I think I got it.

So Stand Alone means it is simply spitting IR from the remote to the component and not to the processor to trigger a macro??
Post 7 made on Friday October 9, 2009 at 23:59
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On October 9, 2009 at 23:42, winesmile said...
Sure I think I got it.

So Stand Alone means it is simply spitting IR from the remote to the component and not to the processor to trigger a macro??

Yes.
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Post 8 made on Saturday October 10, 2009 at 14:31
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If you put a button in standalone any commands directly on the button or even in a macro will fire out the front of the remote IR. If you build a system macro and add that to your standalone button those will fire RF.

If you ever have 2 system macros running make sure they dont step on each other. A system macro that takes 6 seconds to run needs at least a 6 second delay between it and the other System macro. This usually only comes up for me if I have 2 processors or more.
OP | Post 9 made on Saturday October 10, 2009 at 22:10
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So I'd like to cut my macros over to System Macos - is there a way to cut and paste? 
Post 10 made on Saturday October 10, 2009 at 23:20
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On October 10, 2009 at 14:31, brandenpro said...
If you ever have 2 system macros running make sure they dont step on each other. A system macro that takes 6 seconds to run needs at least a 6 second delay between it and the other System macro. This usually only comes up for me if I have 2 processors or more.

If you do run multiple system macros from the same system make sure to call them with another system macro.(especially with an RP-6/1 as it does not send multiple macros at the same time nor does it hold any commands sent while it's sending commands.) This prevents any time delay issues. I was doing this once on an Onkyo and it was a nightmare. I don't know why I set my macro to run two system macros from one key press but obviously changing it ensures no time delay issues.
Post 11 made on Sunday October 11, 2009 at 17:24
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I put as many functions as possible in system macros, especially favorite channels. This way when comcast or who ever changes a channel number in a whole house install I only have to change the one macro and all of the remotes will be undated in one stroke, this is true of anything that is shared through out a home. it also makes programing several different types of RTI remotes easier, as all you have to do is drag over the single fav Chanel macro for that specific box. another advantage is that if you are using an XP8, you can VPN into the project and so long as you don't have to change add or subtract any graphics, you can upload directly to the XP8 or K4, K3  touch panels
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OP | Post 12 made on Tuesday October 13, 2009 at 22:35
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On October 10, 2009 at 22:10, winesmile said...
So I'd like to cut my macros over to System Macos - is there a way to cut and paste? 

I'd like to cut/paste into system macro - is there a way to do this without having to rewrite everything?
Post 13 made on Tuesday October 13, 2009 at 23:38
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Yes, right click on the standalone button, select "copy"...

Open your processor window, add the new system macro, and then right click on the grey box under the "macro" column and select "paste macro", you will see that the grey box becomes "pressed" in.

There you have it, copying a standalone macro, to a system macro.

Joey
Post 14 made on Thursday October 15, 2009 at 10:22
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On October 13, 2009 at 23:38, JoeyCes said...
Yes, right click on the standalone button, select "copy"...

Open your processor window, add the new system macro, and then right click on the grey box under the "macro" column and select "paste macro", you will see that the grey box becomes "pressed" in.

There you have it, copying a standalone macro, to a system macro.

Joey

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OP | Post 15 made on Sunday October 18, 2009 at 12:16
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On October 13, 2009 at 23:38, JoeyCes said...
Yes, right click on the standalone button, select "copy"...

Open your processor window, add the new system macro, and then right click on the grey box under the "macro" column and select "paste macro", you will see that the grey box becomes "pressed" in.

There you have it, copying a standalone macro, to a system macro.

Joey

Sorry Joey, I misswrote (is that a word?) what I was trying to do.

I'd like to cut a macro from a button to a new system macro.

i.e., "Watch TV" is now on a button and I'd like to cut that that macro over to a system macro for "Watch TV".  Then I can put that "Watch TV" button in stand alone mode and place a "Please Wait" screen.

Last edited by winesmile on October 18, 2009 16:06.


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