Hello,

The family needs one remote, we keep loosing them.

So is the T2C easier than the T3 to use. The wife and kids mainly use cable tv and dvr.

My installer is telling me that the RP-6 is overkill for me?

If I can use R-232 connections, is that better than the other options?

Thanks

Milton

Yes, because you have DVR buttons always under your thumb with the T2C.


RP1 is fine unless you want routing or RS232.


You can use IR successfully. Some installers don't like the little emitters on the front of units so will use IR in jacks in the back of units where available, or RS232.

I second Tom's opinion

My opinion is to see if the installer can arrange for a demo. I have been amazed at how people whom I had thought would be interested in hard buttons preferred the T3 over the T2-C. (And visa versa). It is completely a preference issue that can easily be decided in the first few minutes of a demo.

I prefer larger touch screens over the T2-C, but can certainly appreciate why people would prefer the numerous hard buttons.

It all depends on the application and the skills/insight/creativity of the installer programmer.

It does not matter... T2C or T3 can be equally difficult or easy to use.

The T2C may be easier for someone to program because there is less graphic work required. The T2C has many buttons available without having to change screens. It works well for channel surfers with big hands. I find that younger men (especially those with a technical interest in the system) have a general preference for the look and feel of the T2C.

The T3 provides more opportunity to "design" the user interface. It is a great handheld piece for using with multizone receivers, distributed audio and distributed video. The process of engaging in any activity can be prompted and customized to a higher degree making it a more desireable solution for multiple users of various familiarity with the system. For example... cable w/DVR has tabs for keypad, DVR, OnDemand, and favorites which take you to dedicated pages showing only the buttons that would be in use to reduce button confusion and clutter. It is not very practical for one handed operation (not great for big channel surfers) and can be big for small hands, however, it is not very deep and is surprisingly comfotable to hold. It is more expensive. Generally, I have found that most women prefer the T3 (if the GUI is programmed well) as do inexperienced users and people who could give a rats ass about how the system actually works.

I generally sell and program the T3 as a practical and premium "system" controller. I sell the T2+ as a simple multi-purpose theater remote (feels great in the hand and is prefered as a channel surfer) and I sell the T2C as either an aesthetic upgrade to the T2+ or when increased functionality is required and the client is not hot on the T3.

I'm guessing from your name you're running an Anthem D2. The anthem has one of the largest rs-232 command libraries I've seen. It may be worth it to go with the RP-6 to take adavantage of controlling the Anthem via serial.

We put an RP6 into nearly every system we install. The RP6 is more flexible with antenna location, and adding addition antennas if necessary. We only do an RP1 if it is a MAJOR cost issue, or maybe a small bedroom system.

As long as your installer can do the basic 232 programming, I would do the RP6 in a heart beat. It will give you 99% reliability.

If it's within the budget, get the RP6.

Second that!

I second Groovit and vbova.

After I programmed touch screens for several years, I did one for myself and found that I wanted physical buttons. The touch screen looks cool but requires two hands and requires you to look at it every touch to be sure you're in just the right place. With the touchscreen, when forwarding a DVR through commercials, I had to keep looking back and forth from TV to remote to be sure my finger was in just the right place. With the T2C, I can locate the button and rest my finger on it, pushing when the TV shows me I'm in the right place.

My opinion after that experience is that full touchscreens should be used where there is only occasional use, use to impress, or use by guests. The T3 can be totally customized so if you're not familiar with it you can still figure it out. That is up to programmer skill.

I don't understand the assumption that an RP1 or RP6 is necessary. If your couch is a futon and you have a bull mastiff, well, then the IR might just get interrupted when the dog walks by, although I have sometimes used my IR remote in the charger, pointed up and 90 degrees away from the system. The IR is that strong. If you do need RF, there's still a price difference between the two units, and I'd choose the one that would work well for me. In single systems, I can't see the RP6 being necessary. A nice frill that the programmer will like, or necessary if you have more than one, say, DVR of the same model, but not necessary.

I have a T2c in my living room, but I am a button pushing kind of guy. For those who generally just pick one channel the T3 is fine, it has a little more wow factor as well. Which is important for some. I like to let the client make this decision of which remote they like, to me it is nothing more than personal preference.

I agree with the RP-6 group here as well, I try to use RS-232 as much as possible. I have found the maid does not move the connections compared to emitters that get removed all the time. Plus the option of IR routing is a big plus. Yes it is a couple hundred more plus the modules, but when I am not getting service call I have a client who is not frustrated. I hope anyways...

Yup...damn I hate when my maid moves the ir emitters..... it also pisses me off when my butler doesn't line my shoes against the wall or when my chauffeur doesn't back the limo in the garage properly.

Sorry , couldn't resist. ;-)

Ignoring MetalOrb's comment... any of you remember the days when the maid would just not be able to stand it any more and would dust the turntable? This usually ended up in the cartridge being a bit smoother as that nasty pointy thing below it was cleaned right off in the process.

I would honestly use the RP-6 instead of the RP-1, due to the fact of Antenna Reception placement. We have had sucess with the RP-1, but by moving the antenna away from any EMI interference the remote will sometime double and triple its range by using a RM 433 over and RP1. This is very nice when you are outside, or trying to control the second zone of the amp.... Many reasons....

i own 2 t2+ 1 t3 and 1 m2

my t3 is just for show... i surf too much and the touch screen sucks for surfingg