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Post 1 made on Thursday December 27, 2007 at 20:13
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May be this has being post before but what is the maximum distance you guys have achieved between a RM-433 and a RP6?
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Post 2 made on Thursday December 27, 2007 at 20:33
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In a real world environment I have had consistency up to 50'. I am learning to add extra Cat5 all over the place just in case. I do have a standard family room where I had to add a 2nd RM433 just keep the remote consistent, this was not to big of a room.

I know RTI claims a little farther, but this has not been my experience.
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Post 3 made on Thursday December 27, 2007 at 20:34
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i have gone 50 feet with vpm2000 and canare bnc no issues that would be remote antenna.

i typially leave the rm433 in the rack(if local) and remote locate the antenna. this seems to work the best for me.
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Post 4 made on Thursday December 27, 2007 at 21:07
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On December 27, 2007 at 20:34, ceied said...
i have gone 50 feet with vpm2000 and canare bnc no issues
that would be remote antenna.

i typially leave the rm433 in the rack(if local) and remote
locate the antenna. this seems to work the best for me.

Really..That's cool. Is that 59 or 6 cable you use?
I'll let you know tomorrow..
OP | Post 5 made on Thursday December 27, 2007 at 21:19
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Is the limitation in the distance due to the power or to the IR? I remember I did a job once where there was a RP6 in the Master Bedroom's system and another one in the kid's bedroom. The father wanted to be able to turn off the kid's system from his remote in the Master Bedroom and we ran Cat5 from one RP6 to the other between signal and ground. I think we went above 100 ft. I believe we doubled the gauge though.
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Post 6 made on Thursday December 27, 2007 at 21:55
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What is vpm2000??

You can link all the RM433's together so any remote can talk to any processor. We did this on the project I showed pictures of the Time speakers in. Everything can talk to everything. This is a 6k sq ft. 3 story house. I have one RM433 on the top floor where the bedrooms are, 2 on the middle floor where the family and living room are, and one in the rack area on the lower level. I think there are 6 RP-6's on the project running the show...

We have 10 or so wired touchpanels and I can do a global off which will shut down the whole house this way. All connected via cat5. Some with phone line and/or Ethernet on the same cable. We did not do the prewire so we had to get very creative here... lol
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Post 7 made on Thursday December 27, 2007 at 22:10
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Check your e-mail Pedro...
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Post 8 made on Thursday December 27, 2007 at 23:06
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On December 27, 2007 at 21:07, nardo1 said...
Really..That's cool. Is that 59 or 6 cable you use?

vpm 2000 is gepco serial digital coax it a 59 based cable, 3gig swept.... super nice. then i use crimp on canare bnc's
Ed will be known as the Tiger Woods of the integration business, followed closely with the renaming of his company to "Hotties A/V". The tag line will be "We like big racks and tight holes"...
Post 9 made on Thursday December 27, 2007 at 23:10
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On December 27, 2007 at 21:55, roddymcg said...
What is vpm2000??

gepco serial digital coax 59 based
You can link all the RM433's together so any remote can
talk to any processor. We did this on the project I showed
pictures of the Time speakers in. Everything can talk
to everything.

i will typically put in 2 rm433's for a single room solution. sometimes with cell towers, ap's wifi etc steel studs etc... the extra antenna comes in handy for making it reliable.
Ed will be known as the Tiger Woods of the integration business, followed closely with the renaming of his company to "Hotties A/V". The tag line will be "We like big racks and tight holes"...
Post 10 made on Thursday December 27, 2007 at 23:13
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On December 27, 2007 at 23:10, ceied said...
gepco serial digital coax 59 based

i will typically put in 2 rm433's for a single room solution.
sometimes with cell towers, ap's wifi etc steel studs
etc... the extra antenna comes in handy for making it
reliable.

Is this in the city, or suburbia?? I have only had to use 2 antenna's on one project so far. Pretty much everything we do are single family homes...
When good enough is not good enough.
Post 11 made on Friday December 28, 2007 at 00:06
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On December 27, 2007 at 23:13, roddymcg said...
Is this in the city, or suburbia?? I have only had to
use 2 antenna's on one project so far. Pretty much everything
we do are single family homes...

city and hi density living areas
Ed will be known as the Tiger Woods of the integration business, followed closely with the renaming of his company to "Hotties A/V". The tag line will be "We like big racks and tight holes"...
Post 12 made on Friday December 28, 2007 at 01:53
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I have done many jobs with reliable 50+ feet range.

I had one RP1 work very well for a 7500 sq ft house once... wouldn't do it again that way but it still works great.

I have had my share of 20 ft ranges as well.

The point being... Run extra CAT5! If you can't then look for wire to utilize (I have taken advantage of unused keypad and speaker wires). Always prime the customer for the potential of needing extra RM433s before the project begins and show up to the job with extras in hand so when the reception fails you look like the number one problem solver and integration hero!
Post 13 made on Friday December 28, 2007 at 08:52
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I have a 57 foot run in my Theater room in my basement and it works without issues. I do have extra cable runs just in case, but I was happy about the outcome.

VB
Post 14 made on Friday December 28, 2007 at 09:54
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On December 28, 2007 at 01:53, tgrugett said...
The point being... Run extra CAT5! If you can't then look
for wire to utilize (I have taken advantage of unused
keypad and speaker wires). Always prime the customer for
the potential of needing extra RM433s before the project
begins and show up to the job with extras in hand so when
the reception fails you look like the number one problem
solver and integration hero!

This sort of topic came up recently in either this forum or the URC area recently and then kind of died. But I'm curious.....in regards to running extra cat5 for more 433s....where do you guys normally plan to place the 433 or additional/redundant 433s. The last one we did we placed two rfx-250s in the attic space above a large gameroom (one on each end). However, this house is a foamed house so the attic space doesn't get that hot, even though it's in Texas. I would not have felt comfortable putting any rf antenna module in an unfoamed attic as it would melt around August here in Texas.

Would you guys mind sharing where you typically physically locate most of your antennas? Bookshelves? Attic space? Kitchen cabinets? Behind FPDs?

Thanks in advance, Roger
Post 15 made on Friday December 28, 2007 at 10:04
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I run stuff in upper closets very often. Most laundry rooms have 2 extra cat5es above the cabinets for instance. On a recent project the electrician thought I was crazy for some of the places I asked for power. I want power there in case I need an access point or whatever could come down the line...
When good enough is not good enough.
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