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Post 1 made on Saturday December 15, 2007 at 00:09
tgrugett
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It was bad enough that the Pioneer Pro-99 RPTV codes were bad out of the library and could not be learned properly but WTF was going on with the Yamaha receiver direct IR input jack?

Here were the issues I dealt with the last two days. This is both for the benefit of others AND for those who might have experience with this to comment.

Pioneer Pro-99 RPTV.
The IR pro wanted to decode these signals at 455Khz and not 40Khz as they should be or they would decifer as a composite of two codes (also incorrect for this model) as many Pioneer codes do. A file in the library looked like someone had the same issue. I was able to decifer from my own learns and from a collection of files what the proper device code likely was and johnsfine directed me to the proper frequency. From there I generated clean codes via make hex and with a little luck and guessing was able to figure out the function codes for most commands. For reference, it used Pioneer protocol (NEC2 protocol at 40Khz) device 170. For giggles I made the assumption that numbers 0-9 corresponded to function 0-9... it was my lone bright spot working with this pig! Also, I tried to use the direct IR port on the back of the TV and got nothing. When plugged in to the jack the built in IR receiver was disabled. Perhaps it was an issue with the stereo mini-jack extension cable I was using since my mono was not long enough. There went most of my afternoon. I will submit the new clean file for the next Mega List... not like anyone will ever use this TV again, however.

Yamaha RX-V2092 AV receiver.
The existing code set in the mega list 14 was spot on (direct IR and via an emitter out of the RP6). I connected an RP6 port to the IR in jack on the back which I had never done with Yamaha. The Power On and Power Off worked great, however, no other commands would respond. I checked all repeat, frequency and routing settings MANY times. I also examined the codes themselves against my own learns and I could not find any issues within my realm of understanding. Like the TV wasn't bad enough!
If anyone has an idea I would love to hear it. I am assuming at this point it is a result of my lack of Yamaha knowlege.

Sony DVP-S7700.
I knew that the S-link functionality was just raw data without a carrier frequency but I had never thought of adjusting the frequency to 0 in the IR library manager until a post appeared yesterday in a timely fashion. It worked great. What should have been the problematic device was cake, however, there did seem to be some voltage feedback indicated on the RP6 when connected to the S-link port. I pulled this to see if it helped my receiver situation but it did not.
Post 2 made on Saturday December 15, 2007 at 00:27
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Having one of those weeks myself. Did a Denon/RP-1 with the mini jack and the freakin thing would not turn off. Everything else worked just fine on the Denon and the other components. Finally put a bug on it.

Then we had a Auton lift LV controller take a crap. For some reason against my suggestions they put said controller behind the plasma. Which is not accesible unless we drill out the bottom plate. So we swap it out and move the controller to the local equiment area and pull a wire run for it with out a single hole in plaster. Get it all back together and it works fine.

Get a call that they are now having issues again with the lift, but I am stuck dicking around with Verizon today. And this job is 90 minutes out at best in So.Cal. Lift is down so they can watch TV. Give up on Verizon so I just call it a day at 5 pm. Get home fire up the laptop and get comfortable. Phone rings and it a client that one of our techs has blown off for some reason and this client is pissed. Just a bunch of little shit to deal with, but now I am in damage control.

I tell the client I will meet him any day he wants and do whatever is needed to be done. He says Friday is only day, so what else do I say??

Friday a group of us are playing golf, I have been so slamed I have only played 3 times this year because we are so busy FU$K........ I was so looking forward to this
When good enough is not good enough.
Post 3 made on Saturday December 15, 2007 at 08:36
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On December 15, 2007 at 00:27, roddymcg said...
I tell the client I will meet him any day he wants and
do whatever is needed to be done. He says Friday is only
day, so what else do I say??

Friday a group of us are playing golf, I have been so
slamed I have only played 3 times this year because we
are so busy FU$K........ I was so looking forward to this

Thing to ponder.......Do you get more than 3 profitable calls a year from this client? The answer lies right in front of you "Roddyson" (spoken with my best Kwai Chang Caine voice)!

Crap week here in Boston also......

4 1/2 hour commute home with snow storm (usually 45 min.)......

Plasma mounted speaker for very same job finally arrives on my arrival home (need to go back to the same job Monday now).........

$135 in parking tickets for leaving big rig on street during snow emergency....

Spent 14 hours of time trying to simulate 2-way on the RK1-8's for multi room job that I spec'd in (I'll probably be the only one who appreciates the final product, client will probably bitch about the bushed anodized doesn't match on all of his equipment)....

Going now to a kids sporting indoor event where I'm sure that 2 acquaintances who are waiting for quote to have me add control to their existing systems (which are all low level toad systems) will hammer me on this issue, and give me that attitude that I'm sure you've all seen "I need to replace some of my equipment because it won't work with your system?????"............

And it's that time of the month for the old lady......
I once thought I had mono for an entire year, it turned out I was just really bored - Wayne's World
Post 4 made on Saturday December 15, 2007 at 11:30
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On December 15, 2007 at 08:36, A/Vjunkie said...
Thing to ponder.......Do you get more than 3 profitable
calls a year from this client? The answer lies right in
front of you "Roddyson" (spoken with my best Kwai Chang
Caine voice)!

He works for this little toy company and we are doing most of the execs that have been transfered to the west coast. So far this has been several hundred thousand dollars worth of work this year. With the potential of more work. If things go right we will be doing a nice theater for the the CEO of this company. Form our talks, this will be another couple hundred grand .

So to answer your question (in dumb white boy speak), yes...
When good enough is not good enough.
Post 5 made on Saturday December 15, 2007 at 14:00
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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On December 15, 2007 at 00:09, tgrugett said...
| Pioneer Pro-99 RPTV.
The IR pro wanted to decode these signals at 455Khz and
not 40Khz as they should be or they would decifer as a
composite of two codes (also incorrect for this model)
as many Pioneer codes do.

This whole series was such a bad idea. I think the remote actually worked at 1.125 mHz, unless I'm thinking of another Pioneer bad idea. (Like the time I called their customer service, could only leave a message, decided to try to get someone by entering bogus phone extensions, and in twenty seconds was in their unprotected voice mail message system. I changed the message for them, so callers would hear that it would take hours for someone to get to it, but they would... probably... eventually hear from Pioneer. Yeah, not having a password on that was another bad Pioneer idea.)

Anyway, IIRC, those TVs would respond to 40 Hz commands if you had them. Which doesn't help you.
... not
like anyone will ever use this TV again, however.

How I so hope. My accountant wanted me to add an IR system to his TV, bought around that time, and other stuff, until I told him I'd have to put in a regular IR system plus a 1.125 mHz system. He told me not to bother.

Yamaha RX-V2092 AV receiver.

I liked the 2095 and only worked with one 2092.
The existing code set in the mega list 14 was spot on...
Power On and Power Off worked...no other commands....

Again, IIRC, Yamaha really goofed on this one. They put a rear IR input on this that would only control zone 2. Their idea was you would feed the IR from the zone 1 remote that you took into the Zone 2 room to control Zone 2. Via that jack. If enabled. Again, if I remember correctly. Whatever it was, it meant we had to put an emitter on the front.
I am assuming
at this point it is a result of my lack of Yamaha knowlege.

Well, it is, but there's also a problem in that you are a logical clear-thinking person and you were trying to apply that to this unit.
Sony DVP-S7700.
I knew that the S-link functionality was just raw data
without a carrier frequency but I had never thought of
adjusting the frequency to 0 in the IR library manager
until a post appeared yesterday in a timely fashion. It
worked great.

Isn't that a great solution? It's one of those ones that is totally obvious once some genius has jumped way outside the box to come up with it.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
OP | Post 6 made on Saturday December 15, 2007 at 18:28
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On December 15, 2007 at 14:00, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...
I liked the 2095 and only worked with one 2092.
Again, IIRC, Yamaha really goofed on this one. They put
a rear IR input on this that would only control zone 2.
Their idea was you would feed the IR from the zone 1
remote that you took into the Zone 2 room to control Zone
2. Via that jack. If enabled. Again, if I remember
correctly. Whatever it was, it meant we had to put an
emitter on the front.

I admit that I assumed on this one and did not put my usual research into it. When the system fired up I thought, "cool.... done" but then I noticed nothing else worked. I will look for the functionality documentation on this. So... what you are saying is that I may find that the zone 2 codes work when plugged in... correct? I also assume that the power codes work because without the main power on, zone 2 is SOL since it does not have its own discrete power. What a PITA.... I will have to create conditional logic to power up and switch zone 1 to an unused input when the user only wants zone 2 on.

Well, it is, but there's also a problem in that you are
a logical clear-thinking person and you were trying to
apply that to this unit.

Doesn't this suck. I get burned by this ocassionally. I do some stupid shit every once in a while but I learn from it immediately. My real problem is I think everyone else does as well :)
Post 7 made on Saturday December 15, 2007 at 20:59
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Yamaha RX-V2092 AV receiver.
The existing code set in the mega list 14 was spot on
(direct IR and via an emitter out of the RP6). I connected
an RP6 port to the IR in jack on the back which I had
never done with Yamaha. The Power On and Power Off worked
great, however, no other commands would respond. I checked
all repeat, frequency and routing settings MANY times.
I also examined the codes themselves against my own learns
and I could not find any issues within my realm of understanding.
Like the TV wasn't bad enough!
If anyone has an idea I would love to hear it. I am assuming
at this point it is a result of my lack of Yamaha knowlege.

Although i'm an Integra guy now, I do have a RX-V1 that I won in a sales contest and still use. I'm assuming you cranked the output up on that RP6 port.

Now what I vaguely remember when I hooked up my RX-V1 was that some of the codes worked when using the serial in 1, and others worked when hooked to Serial in 2 (the RX-V has 2 IR inputs, I don't know on your unit)

I can tell you this, mine works using the "Yamaha/Receiver/RX-V1 Extended" Megalist 14 codeset with serial IR plugged into the "remote 2" input.

Hope this helps
OP | Post 8 made on Sunday December 16, 2007 at 01:17
tgrugett
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This unit only had one IR input that I saw unless i made a gross oversight.

Like I said... Power On and Off worked great vie the direct IR in but nothing else. When run with an emitter or in standalone the exact same codes worked flawlessly.


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