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Possible To Disable Control With Tag Status?
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Post 1 made on Monday November 12, 2007 at 23:40
sdis
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Afternoon All,

Is there a way within RTI to disable all control if a Tag is set?
Rather than going around individually to every button testing the tag each time?
Post 2 made on Tuesday November 13, 2007 at 00:14
tgrugett
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What do you mean by "all control"?

What is the application?

Details would help.
OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday November 13, 2007 at 01:18
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basically, there is a ship emergency pa system, when active, nothing is to be able to be interfered with

but im sure there are many other environments where when a certain event is triggered, you want to prevent any inputs from working during that time

thats basically what i mean by all control
a global test of a global flag, to see if it has been set, then nothing will respond on the remotes/keypads until the flag is cleared by the external event ending
Post 4 made on Tuesday November 13, 2007 at 03:12
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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You can't enter any commands while a macro is running. That's one way to get a command to derail any further commands, but that assumes a consistent length of time for an event.

If you are able to use a flag to disable response to any commands, you won't be able to unset the flag because you have disabled response to any commands. So you'll have to have a disable command and an enable command, neither of which can be disabled.

I suggest that you use an RP6. Put a Xantech CC12 on IR out 1 and wire up the outputs of zones 2 and 3 so that they go through the relay to IR emitters when the relay is turned off. Turning on the relay disconnects those Ir signals. Turning the relay back off reconnect them. That way, it would not matter what commands are sent -- they won't get through until the CC12 is off. The price of cutting off all control is that you have only two zones of IR routing (unless you add more CC12s).
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Post 5 made on Tuesday November 13, 2007 at 09:22
Rob Grabon
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Why not use a 12volt sensor connected to the PA system.

Then all commands on the remote check the status of the sensor and only pass when their allowed. Extra programming step on your part, but should be very reliable.
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Post 6 made on Wednesday November 14, 2007 at 11:16
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I don't think that there is any way of disabling (besides unplugging the RP-1 or RP-6, if you are using them) without having every command check the flag status.

CJ
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Post 7 made on Wednesday November 14, 2007 at 12:37
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The RP-6 wont check status of anything until it is told so in a macro....tried it already

What I ended up doing is using a Xantech 590 to send a Macro trigger to the RP-6 upon the status trigger

IE, plasma was monitoreds for heat (103" panasonic) if it reached a certain temp the HVAC system sent a contact closure to the Xantech which sent a trigger to the RP-6 and shut the system down. The HVAC also sent a 24vac signal while in fault to a RTI current sensor so if system was turned back on the sensor showed power and stopped the macro....also opened a relay to kill power to the surge/power conditioner

Then when normal temps were back the system would run fine, all in all it was quite simple once everything was in place. Works like a charm
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Post 8 made on Wednesday November 14, 2007 at 16:06
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What about putting a relay on the rm433 output. When the alarm triggers no commands work. Done.
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Post 9 made on Thursday November 15, 2007 at 05:42
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Rob's ideas are pretty parallel to the Xantech CC12 idea except the CC12 leaves you totally in control, via the remote, of when IR signals can and cannot pass.

cj's statement would be true except that a relay such as the CC12 will disable the outputs of the RP1 and RP6 by disconnecting them from their emitters.
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