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Topic: | Problem mysteriously arose... This thread has 23 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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Post 1 made on Sunday October 7, 2007 at 00:56 |
Tom Ciaramitaro Loyal Member |
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Set up a T3/RP1 last year along with two RK3s. Tech support indicated that the signal out of the CB and RP1 could be tied together at the input of the connecting block, and it worked well for over a year.
Today the T3/RP1 does fine, but the RK3 has a strange issue. It will run the zone 2 functions on the Integra receiver, fire off the CD changer, BUT it will not do channel macros on the Motorola cable box (for cable music channels).
Possibilities:
1. Bad flasher on the cable box? Don't think so, all is well operating the Moto box with the T3.
2. Bad RP1? Subbed it, no change.
3. RF interference? Took the antenna off, no change.
4. Noise naturally emanating from the RP1? That's what I think. I pulled power from it and normal functions returned, macros on the RK3 hit 100%. I also left power to it and pulled the Phoenix plug and the same 100% reliability was seen.
Anyone seen such a critter before? Couldn't call tech support on Saturday...
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Post 2 made on Monday October 8, 2007 at 01:50 |
Eastside A/V Select Member |
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Post 3 made on Monday October 8, 2007 at 05:33 |
Springs Super Member |
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Was the RP1 lit all the time with errors?
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OP | Post 4 made on Monday October 8, 2007 at 09:17 |
Tom Ciaramitaro Loyal Member |
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No, was not! I did take the antenna off as well, in an effort to eliminate RF issues.
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Post 5 made on Tuesday October 9, 2007 at 02:39 |
fluid-druid Senior Member |
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If you were able to pull power on the RP1, does that mean that your channel macros are being stored in the RK3? In other words, is the RK3 set to Standalone? I would try setting it to output IR triggers. This way, the channel macros will be stored on the RP1.
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Post 6 made on Tuesday October 9, 2007 at 05:51 |
Springs Super Member |
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Huh? How does an RK3 Trigger an RP1?
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Post 7 made on Tuesday October 9, 2007 at 20:36 |
fluid-druid Senior Member |
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The same way it would with an RP6.
Set the default output of the RK3 to IR Trigger Codes for Control System.
Now, all commands and macros will be stored on the RP1.
This is the same with all remotes, touchpanels and processors as far as I know.
For what its worth, I've never used an RP1.... so I could be in left field. But, if IR commands can be sent from the RK3 THRU the RP1, then this should work.
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Post 8 made on Tuesday October 9, 2007 at 21:46 |
ErikS Active Member |
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You can assign an RK3 to an RP1 but I don't think it is sending trigger codes. I say this only because if you have an RP1 in a system you cannot generate trigger codes like an RP6.
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Post 9 made on Tuesday October 9, 2007 at 23:09 |
AndyM Founding Member |
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I think you guys missed the part where he said that they are all tied into a connect block.
What I'm envisioning is that he has an RP1 outputting into a connect block. As well as two RK3's outputting into the same connect block.
In theory it should all work just fine, as long as the RP unit and RK3 units are all powered properly.
Where theory goes out the window... I've found that sometimes when an RM433 is catching interference, it locks up the RP6 and causes havoc. I've seen a couple RM433 units go bad in the process.
Here is my theory: The RK3 units are backfeeding into the RP1 and have fried it.
Should have an RP6/RM433/CB4 setup to do it properly.
Theories are like assholes, everybody has one. ;-)
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OP | Post 10 made on Tuesday October 9, 2007 at 23:53 |
Tom Ciaramitaro Loyal Member |
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Two RK3s are fed by the CB4 for good power there.
RP1 is fed by its own supply.
The RP1 is not fried because it works like a champ with the T3 that interfaces with it.
Tech support thinks it is an emitter output problem.
Since both the CB4 and RP1 tie together at the connecting block and output with the same emitters, that would make me think the RK3s have somewhat low IR output compared to the RP1.
The thing that is confusing is that with power pulled from the RP1, everything from the RK3 is hunky dory.
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Post 11 made on Wednesday October 10, 2007 at 00:15 |
RTI Installer Super Member |
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Did you try running the codes as system macros on the RP-1? I experienced weird behavior on a T3 once that was corrected by using system macros instead. I just put the cable #'s 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0, on the RP-1 as individual system macros and then used those to build my channel macros
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Post 12 made on Wednesday October 10, 2007 at 01:41 |
tgrugett Select Member |
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You can try diode isolating the connecting block and the RP1.
If power is separate then the only opportunity for backfeed would be via signal or ground.
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OP | Post 13 made on Wednesday October 10, 2007 at 01:59 |
Tom Ciaramitaro Loyal Member |
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On October 10, 2007 at 01:41, tgrugett said...
You can try diode isolating the connecting block and the RP1.
If power is separate then the only opportunity for backfeed would be via signal or ground. Does it matter which way the diode is connected? Have you had to do something like this before? David, I may try your plan since there are only a dozen channel macros, and a diode doesn't work.
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Post 14 made on Wednesday October 10, 2007 at 08:41 |
Springs Super Member |
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Fluid... your in Left field! :) There is no input on the RP1. The only way to talk to it is via RF. I thought you had figured out something odd... As for the cb4... Have you tried making a RJ45 end on the output of the RP1 and plugging it into a CB4 port? Should work... in theory.... Just use Ground and Signal and leave power out of it... Power... If the powers both going to the connecting block that would screw it up.
Last edited by Springs
on October 10, 2007 08:49.
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Post 15 made on Wednesday October 10, 2007 at 11:58 |
AndyM Founding Member |
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On October 10, 2007 at 08:41, Springs said...
Fluid... your in Left field! :) There is no input on the RP1. The only way to talk to it is via RF. I thought you had figured out something odd...
As for the cb4...
Have you tried making a RJ45 end on the output of the RP1 and plugging it into a CB4 port? Should work... in theory.... Just use Ground and Signal and leave power out of it...
Power...
If the powers both going to the connecting block that would screw it up. This was kind of what I was thinking next... You don't need to do an RJ45. Run the output of the RP1 into one of the inputs on the CB4 via the molex connector.
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