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Amp choice for multi zone Audio with RTi?
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Post 16 made on Thursday September 27, 2007 at 16:51
AndyM
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On September 27, 2007 at 01:46, RTI Installer said...
Why do you need a spread sheet? just use the one that
comes with the unit instructions. Dont forget to use a
null modem with this model :)

INSTRUCTIONS!?!?!?!?!

Who looks at those? I never bothered to look. ;-)

Thanks, I'll check'm out.
Post 17 made on Thursday September 27, 2007 at 21:37
tgrugett
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On September 26, 2007 at 05:31, A/Vjunkie said...

I had another contractor mention Auto-Patch, but I see
that they where just aquired by AMX. Anyone know what
might be entailed it getting that product line now?

...just started with them and placed my first order. You can deal Autopatch without becoming an AMX dealer.

...checked out the new offerings comming from NeoPro at Cedia. They look cool... switchers with component and audio utilizing CAT5 outputs with Balun receivers on the destination end (I was asking for this last year!) at prices more reasonable than some others with similar features.
Post 18 made on Friday September 28, 2007 at 00:09
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B&K is a great piece of gear and has a lot discretes. B&K's website has RTI database for all the product. Go to support then downloads
Post 19 made on Friday September 28, 2007 at 01:18
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On September 27, 2007 at 21:37, tgrugett said...
...just started with them and placed my first order. You
can deal Autopatch without becoming an AMX dealer.

...checked out the new offerings comming from NeoPro at
Cedia. They look cool... switchers with component and
audio utilizing CAT5 outputs with Balun receivers on the
destination end (I was asking for this last year!) at
prices more reasonable than some others with similar features.

Knox has a larger multi zone component over cat 5 switcher coming out november-ish, it has localized audio switching
Never Ignore the Obvious -- H. David Gray
Post 20 made on Friday September 28, 2007 at 06:22
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I use NeoPro and like the product a lot. Only thing missing is that it can't control volume too. If it could then I wouldn't need too look at Knox. But Neo doesn't... BTW I HAVE HAD NO ISSUES WITH 3 BORREGOS! Can't say that about the manufacture they replaced.
Post 21 made on Sunday September 30, 2007 at 17:39
funtech
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I like Yamaha 2700 up to 3 rooms since we have great codes for it (take a look).
for 6 Z by 4 S i like sonace DAB 1, great 232 ,very ez to controle.
for 6 by 6 you can try Elan ,Nevo, Speaker craft, non of them too good.
as the other dude said the knox is the best by far ; good sound good video very very good 232

good luck
Dan
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Post 22 made on Sunday September 30, 2007 at 17:52
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I disagree on the Speakercraft comment. It's very reliable from either an IR controlled or RS-232 standpoint. Not to mention it has powerful internal logic capabilities that can be taken advantage of along with video distribution.
Post 23 made on Sunday September 30, 2007 at 20:39
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I have a huge amount of bad luck with the Speakercraft product lateley. 3 out of 4 of our Mz-66's went bad, then one of our replacements was bad out of the box.
When good enough is not good enough.
Post 24 made on Monday October 8, 2007 at 05:09
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Guys,

those of you that do multi-room audio with RTI please explain how you deal with the one way (no feedback) problem. What I mean is how do you program your systems? For example if the user goes and starts a cd player from the wall keypads or touchpanels and then then picks up a T3 to change a song and link the zone to the whole house,how do you make the keypads with remote syncronise without interrupting operation of the system? Can you please send me some multiroom program examples?
Post 25 made on Monday October 8, 2007 at 09:21
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On October 8, 2007 at 05:09, charris said...
Guys,

those of you that do multi-room audio with RTI please
explain how you deal with the one way (no feedback) problem.
What I mean is how do you program your systems? For example
if the user goes and starts a cd player from the wall
keypads or touchpanels and then then picks up a T3 to
change a song and link the zone to the whole house,how
do you make the keypads with remote syncronise without
interrupting operation of the system? Can you please send
me some multiroom program examples?

You can't monitor status of RTI or their touchpanels currently. This is what you need 2-way for.

I can send you something later if you prefer, 28 zones of audio, and 3 different zones of video with a bunch of T3's, K4's, and RK3's. Our first proposal included Crestron, but they did not want to spend that much. So this in my opinion is a decent compromise...
When good enough is not good enough.
Post 26 made on Monday October 8, 2007 at 09:48
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Roddy,

please send it to me. We usually use AMX but sometimes we have to go with the RTI option and I am not 100% sure I can make a mult-room system simple enough to be used with a one way control system.
Post 27 made on Wednesday October 17, 2007 at 19:56
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I recently did a 18-zone system with those marantz amps and a RP6. (Well, actually two RP6's, but that's a different story)

Worked out fine. The only thing I don't like is that the marantz amps go to 0 after a power failure, as I am doing the volume control thru the autopatch switcher instead of the amps, so I had to program in a failsafe.
OP | Post 28 made on Thursday October 18, 2007 at 08:15
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Thank's MrBeetle!

That's good to know......
I once thought I had mono for an entire year, it turned out I was just really bored - Wayne's World
Post 29 made on Thursday October 18, 2007 at 15:59
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Is Marantz getting rid of the amp? They took it out of the demo rack at the distro.
Post 30 made on Friday October 19, 2007 at 02:35
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On October 8, 2007 at 05:09, charris said...
Guys,

those of you that do multi-room audio with RTI please
explain how you deal with the one way (no feedback) problem.
What I mean is how do you program your systems? For example
if the user goes and starts a cd player from the wall
keypads or touchpanels and then then picks up a T3 to
change a song and link the zone to the whole house,how
do you make the keypads with remote syncronise without
interrupting operation of the system? Can you please send
me some multiroom program examples?

First of all what is a CD player?

We generally use music /DVD servers, one advantage to this, is that you get a visual representation of what is going on with that particular source. That said, there is no need to sync anything. If for example someone is listening to an iPod in a dock in the kitchen and they want to hear that same tune in the living room as well, they simply select "living room"-> iPod and what ever is playing on the iPod will now be heard there. Do you really need to be told what song is playing, do you really need to be told that the play button was pressed while you are standing there listening to the music


RTI guys have for years come up simple solutions to incorporate the products into people’s homes and businesses, We have never had bi directional anything so our way of thinking and doing has evolved from these roots.


AMX / Crestron guys are all stuck on this idea that everything has to follow everything else, when in reality, this is not really necessary. I follow the principle that everything is independent yet still can drink from a common pool .


Honestly, Why should the remote in the office reflect what is going on in the kitchen or the master bedroom, what’s the point other than showing off a bunch of fancy graphics?

Why would you need a bi directional response from a plasma TV? If everything was designed and working right to begin with, this would be a non-issue.


You must unlearn what you have learned “Yoda”
Never Ignore the Obvious -- H. David Gray
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