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RK1-8 Question/Suggestion
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Post 1 made on Thursday September 13, 2007 at 16:57
imt
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I know the RK1-8 comes with some pre-printed label stickers. However, I need more specific ones for radio station presets, etc. Has anyone made their own and if so what did you use.

I see that you can set the active state of a button to whatever color you choose. However, this only lasts for as long as the macro takes to run and then it reverts back to the in-active color. It would be great if you had the option to keep the buttons active color set until another button is pressed so you can easily identify what source is currently playing.

You should also have the ability to set an option for a button (for example vol+ and vol-) where you don't need to change the active state color of that button and also don't want to change the current button (i.e. your source button) to inactive by pressing this button.
Post 2 made on Thursday September 13, 2007 at 19:09
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I see that you can set the active state of a button to
whatever color you choose. However, this only lasts for
as long as the macro takes to run and then it reverts
back to the in-active color. It would be great if you
had the option to keep the buttons active color set until
another button is pressed so you can easily identify what
source is currently playing.

Change your normal color to the color you want that button to be when it's selected.

By the way, it's "revert to" not Revert Back to". Sorry, one of my pet peeves.

You should also have the ability to set an option for
a button (for example vol+ and vol-) where you don't need
to change the active state color of that button and also
don't want to change the current button (i.e. your source
button) to inactive by pressing this button.

Thats the way my RK1-8's work. all buttons are cream, Active sources are blue. Vol +/- goes red when pressed, back to cream when released.

You need to create a new page for each source button, then change it's properties to be whatever normal color you want it to be when active.

As far as what I woudl like on the RK1 I want 2 way RS232 so when the system is off (or a flag is set and released), the active source can turn off and go to a background state, like in every other keypad system. Also a press and hold so one press turns off a zone, a long press runs a macro.
Post 3 made on Thursday September 13, 2007 at 22:13
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You would need a page for each "active" button, setting that buttons' color to the appropriate "active" color.
As for the custom labels, I haven't tried, but thought that a label printer with "black on clear" labels and a very small font might work. The issue with this is that the stock labels are "reverse", where the text is clear for backlighting.

I'd like to know what you choose, and how it turns out.
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Post 4 made on Friday September 14, 2007 at 00:23
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On September 13, 2007 at 16:57, imt said...
I know the RK1-8 comes with some pre-printed label stickers.
However, I need more specific ones for radio station presets,
etc. Has anyone made their own and if so what did you
use.

I see that you can set the active state of a button to
whatever color you choose. However, this only lasts for
as long as the macro takes to run and then it reverts
back to the in-active color. It would be great if you
had the option to keep the buttons active color set until
another button is pressed so you can easily identify what
source is currently playing.

You should also have the ability to set an option for
a button (for example vol+ and vol-) where you don't need
to change the active state color of that button and also
don't want to change the current button (i.e. your source
button) to inactive by pressing this button.

Brother makes a labeler cartridge "TZ131" that has black on clear, not exactly what you want but it would work, you can also get those Avery clear label sticker sheets for your computer printer, that way you can use whatever font you want
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OP | Post 5 made on Friday September 14, 2007 at 08:56
imt
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You need to create a new page for each source button,
then change it's properties to be whatever normal color
you want it to be when active.

Now I understand. Thanks. First time working with the RK1's.


Also a press
and hold so one press turns off a zone, a long press runs
a macro.

Isn't this done using the button Test command. I did this on mine. If the button is pressed then turn the system on and select the source, if held down (for 1.5 seconds) then turn the system off.
Post 6 made on Friday September 14, 2007 at 09:00
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On September 13, 2007 at 19:09, thefish said...
As far as what I woudl like on the RK1...
a press and hold so one press turns off a zone,
a long press runs a macro.

If you make the button standalone, this is possible
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Post 7 made on Friday September 14, 2007 at 09:32
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On September 14, 2007 at 09:00, estech said...
If you make the button standalone, this is possible

OOHHH, Need to look into that.
OP | Post 8 made on Friday September 14, 2007 at 18:30
imt
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Thats the way my RK1-8's work. all buttons are cream,
Active sources are blue. Vol +/- goes red when pressed,
back to cream when released.


You need to create a new page for each source button,
then change it's properties to be whatever normal color
you want it to be when active.

I did it like yours where I set the Normal Color to Cream and I set the active color to Orange on all of the pages. For each of the pages, that I want to be the active button, I set the color to blue. When the button is orange, you know that it is processing a command and when it turns and stays blue you know its done.

Now, I noticed that if you are on the page for the active button, that is blue, and you press one of the other source buttons, the original buttons stays blue at the same time the other button you just pressed is orange. At the end of the macro the only button that is blue is the new source button. This was easily fixed by setting the backlight command to cream for the active source button on the page prior to executing the macro for the new source button that is pressed.

However, this is where I can see the need for an enhancement. Instead of just having the ability under the Backlighting Macro Command to choose a particular color, there should also be options to choose the "Page Normal" or "Page Active" color. This way if you want to modify the color scheme, you don't have to go through manually and individually change the Backlight color for each button for each of the other sources on all of the pages to match the new "Normal" state of the button color. This would be a huge time saver and eliminate any frustration when changing the deafult colors.



Post 9 made on Saturday September 22, 2007 at 21:00
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On the new est software, you can change any button color by the press. Go to the drop down menu in a macro and select the button color change, its really cool. We just finished one that each source has its own color. All of the other buttons on 2 RK1-8s are blue. When you choose a source, all of the buttons change color to match the source key.......really cool.
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