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Small but troubling issue in TTD5.1
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Post 1 made on Friday July 27, 2007 at 03:33
fluid-druid
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I think I have found a small, annoying bug in the new software.

It has to do with the way PAGE FLIPS are done.

I have a HOME page with activity buttons.
When an activity button is pushed, I trigger a System Macro on the RP6.
The activity button is set to standalone mode, so I can do a PLEASE WAIT page....but I actually use a series of page flips to create an animated progress bar...

I've done that many many times on the T2+ and a few times on the T2C using the old software.... and it works fine on the new software as well.....EXCEPT:

In this case, my Please wait series of pages was at the bottom of my page list.
Then I added some new source pages, and to keep these logical, I "inserted" them above the please wait series in the page list.

The problem is that by doing that I changed the Page numbers of the please wait pages...
And, on SOME (but not all) of my activity macros, I found that the button macro wasn't going to the correct pages.

SO instead of this:

1. Flip to Please Wait Page 1
2. Send Macro Trigger (ie Watch TV)
3. Flip to Please Wait page 2
4. Flip to Please Wait page 3
5. Flip to Please Wait page 4
6. Flip to Cable Box source control page.

I got something like this:

1. Flip to DVD source page (wrong)
2. Send Macro Trigger (Watch TV)
3. Flip to Please Wait page 4 (wrong)
4. Flip to XM radio source page (wrong)
5. Flip to FM tuner source page (wrong)
6. Flip to CD player source page (wrong)

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I think I've got them all fixed.... and I reorganized my page list like this:

1. Home Page
2. Please Wait 1
3. Please Wait 2
4. etc,,
..
.
.
.
.
10. Source page (DVD)
11. Source Page (TV)
12. Source Page (CD)
... etc

I did this so that the page flips will ALWAYS be the same page NUMBERS.... and if I need to add sources, they are always at the END of the list... In fact, this is how I normally arrange them anyways...but I don't always do it this way from the start. I often rearrange the pages into an organized list once everything is working ....


Bit of a pain...but thought I'd mention it: If you are moving your page orders around, verify that your macros are sending you to the desired page(s)
...couple a thumb tacks and a stick of double sided tape should hold this baby up...
Post 2 made on Friday July 27, 2007 at 12:17
tippy-tie
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if you are correct, that's more than a bit of a pain. This was on of the things that drove me nuts about mx-3000 programming: the macros basically associated with the page number, not with the actual page.

RTI needs to know about this immediately. when you set up a pageflip, in or outside of a macro, the program needs to link that action to the actual page, not the page's current position in the page list.
Post 3 made on Friday July 27, 2007 at 12:18
tippy-tie
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fluid, have you called RTI yet? sending your 2 programs to [email protected] would let them walk through it on the phone with you.
Post 4 made on Sunday August 5, 2007 at 00:01
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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I discovered this with versio0n 4.1.0.1019, which I still have on my computer. Hated it.

The association should be with the page, as on (excuse me here) any Prontoid remote or program, not with the number to the left of the page. With it as it is, you can't add pages as afterthoughts and arrange things logically. They have to be arranged chronologically. That's dumb.
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OP | Post 5 made on Sunday August 5, 2007 at 01:13
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I don't think this is ALWAYS the case. I'm not sure of the combination of factors to create the issue though. But I'm pretty sure that sometimes the software does as you would hope.
...couple a thumb tacks and a stick of double sided tape should hold this baby up...
Post 6 made on Sunday August 5, 2007 at 15:38
tgrugett
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I do what you are talking about quite a bit (reorganizing pages) and I have not experienced this problem. The flip always seems to stay with page no matter where it is moved or if other pages are added. I will take a closer look at this to confirm or deny my claims.
OP | Post 7 made on Sunday August 5, 2007 at 16:22
fluid-druid
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In my recent instance, it happened with a series of Please Wait pages.

Ie:

PleaseWait1
PleaseWait2
PleaseWait3
etc

These formed an animation.

When I added new pages "above" the animation pages in the page list, it got the animation pages mixed up.
...couple a thumb tacks and a stick of double sided tape should hold this baby up...


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