has any one used one of these KP with a marantz 3 zone amp for distributed audio. im trying to find were i can use these inwall kps!!! thanx

Used a couple with an Integra 2 zone AV receiver. One controlled main zone and the other zone 2. Outstanding.

Using others to control the Integra MZA4.7 4 Zone DA piece and again, outstanding. I think that keypad is a real keeper. Bright and it does a great job.

Im working on a bid now to include 4-5 RK3's ina MZC-66 system, then a U1 for the hot tub area. will be the first ones I have used..

I like the RK3 and K4 for multiroom apps.

The only GLARING issue is the lack of 2 way comm. No way to see a volume level on the display. No way to track what source the room is playing...if say an "ALL HOUSE PARTY MODE" is activated from another location.

I've got two big projects on the go with B&K multiroom stuff and RK3/K4 for control.

I'm with fluid on that one.

As long as each one only does its own zone then the lack of 2 way can be worked around... but once I hit ALL Mode. Well then I have to guess.

Yes, teh lack of 2 way is a pita. I have a few systems installed with the Integra MZA, and RK3's, T4's, K4's, and of course i'm waiting on about 15 of the RK1-8's.

thanx boys for the input!!! Now my ? is can u set it up as different sources in different rooms, w only one amp or reciever??

Not sure I understand your question, but yes you could have multiple sources in multiple rooms with a multi zone receiver. A Yamaha RXV2700 could be used as the hub of a 3 zone powered system. Team it up with a cd player an FP1 and a few K3s and you could have a great setup.

At some point you should be looking at multiroom controllers beyond what a 2/3 zone receiver can do

I think he was just inquiring for a small DA system. I will confess to using the mentioned combo for a small 3 zone system.

I think we all have at some point, myself included. But looking back would you try and do it differently??

I would do lots differently...

ABSOLUTELY!! BUT, alot of my recent systems, if its not a netstreams or something nice, its simple vc,s and reciever w a cd player and maybe an ipod dock in a couple of rooms b/c they dont want to spend the money.. i like that rti incorporates keypads w the use of simple systems to make people seem like they got something bigger and better if u under stand what im talking about.

Like my last job, nice media rm, but he didnt want six rms of music, KIT, DIN, and outside. I want to try to incorporate touchpanels w/out the use of vc's, or a netstreams/niles multizone system..

Does anyone use a T3 or T2C instead, that can be carried around the house for a small 2 or 3 zone system? Similar scenario as above: 2 or 3 zone AVR verses a full boat 6/8 zone DA system. Do you typically use the RK3/T3/T2C's w or w/o vc's?

I have done numerous systems using various RTI controllers and processors to control MZC-66, Neothings and Autopatch switchers, and Multi-zone Receivers. My best piece of advice would be to setup a new remote (Speakercraft/Distributed Audio/Customer Name) in TT IR Manager and copy clean commands for each job out of your EZ-Tools program. That way when you put the Zone 1 Source 1 command on a button it's like you are pressing the button on the actual keypad.

If I can be of any help to anyone, drop me a line

I do this quite a bit. I seem to get many jobs that require a family room theater system that also serves as the hub for a 2 or 3 zone DA. Most of these places are under 3500 square feet and many are larger condos. The budget is usually between 8K and 20K depending on the TV(s) and number of rooms. I will often use a Denon 3806 and configure the distributed audio with separate indoor and outdoor zones. I try and limit the zones to just a couple of rooms for all of the obvious reasons. I will use 232 for control of the receiver which really helps the speed of all zone macros, radio station tuning, etc...

I will often use a T3 in combination with a K3 or second T3 each configured as a master controller with the ability to select activities in any or all zones via color coded buttons and backgrounds.

I am working on a 3 zone job now using a 3806. There is a hub family room theater in a slide out rotating MA rack using custom trim shelves. There are three rooms (Dining, Living, Master Bed) on zone 2 and 3 mono outdoor areas on zone 3. I am using fixed outs from both zone 2 and 3 to feed 2 Sonance 275x3 amps. The homeowner did not want ANY devices on the wall in the house so I used 3 Xantec RAT1 VCs to control individual volume in the indoor rooms. The outdoor areas use on-wall VCs in the utility room. The T3 is designed with 5 nearly identical (The theater zone differs from the stereo zones) GUIs utilizing transparent buttons with different color backgrounds (Theater=green, Dining=cyan, living=Red, Bedroom=magenta, Outdoor=blue sky with clouds). Each color background indicates which zone (and room in the case of the indoor zone) contols are currently active onthe remote. The page forward button flips the page between rooms (colors) to toggle quickly for individual room volume/on/off. Through the use of flags the user can choose any combination of room/zones to activate via the Home button and the remote will track which rooms should be active (provided no one starts pushing button manually) to eliminate toggling through inactive rooms with the page forward button.

I prefer to jump straight from this type of install to separate dedicated home theaters and DA systems using matrix switchers and skip the whole Xantec/Niles DA kit thing. I guess this is due to the high number of retrofits I do.

Two way of some kind would be great but hey, this gives the customer alot for for the price points I mentioned.