Newbie question:

First time setting large scale control system using 2 RP-6 with 4 Xantech RT16-10 ir routers.

Having problems with sending ir signals throu the individual gates of the routers.

Question is do you embed each ir code with gate control into a macro on the buttons or do you excute them from the RP-6 or just set a page to open the gate then run the codes from the remote?

Is the gate that the ir goes out flashes to acknowledge?

Have already talk to RTI tech support, they said program looks fine.
Trying to get in touch with Xantech.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Equipment as follows:

2 x RP-6
1 x CB 4
1 x T4
1 x K4
4 x RM 433
2 x CM 232
4 x Xantech RT16-10
1 x Xantech 791-44

I noticed a few things about using the amped IR blocks from both Xantech and Sonance. RTI didn't really like it to well. Try setting to high gain and see what happens. I ended up using 789's for each system and works great.

This depends on what you want to achieve. It would be very easy to set up system macros for gated commands directly on the RP6 and then use that system macro repeatedly throughout your configuration. This way you can control any RP6 routing as well as Xantec routing from one location and not have to sweep through you config for edits or troubleshooting.

There is a solid light to indicate that the "gate" is open. Once you issue a command for another gate to open, the previous gate closes.

You can send it to me and I can take a look if you want. What library are you using the codes from. I have a great comprehensive clean code list of all Xantec codes if you need to create your own device profiles.

Make sure your code group settings are correct!

Thanks tgrugett.

I will send it to you tonight.

I'm using an ir library that I captured from the remote.

What code group (s) are you using?

Are you sure thay are correct? I have seen more than one incorrectly documented Xantec group ID during an IR learn.

I think either the RTI library OR the megacode list 13 has at least codes for the 8x router if not the 16x for the default code group.

I used the Xantech IR16-10 with Xantech's SPLCD39 to control a DirecTV system with 16 receivers. i used a combination of "open gate" and "Temp Gate" programming methods.

Open gate:
select a single receiver (opening it's gate) and then pass any subsequent commands to just that one receiver - ie: channel change macros based on touching a channel's logo on the SPLCD, or entering a 3- digit number. the gate remains open until another gate command comes around...

Temp gate:
The customer provided me with 3 listings of 16 preset channels for different times. I set it up so that with a single button press, all 16 sat rcvrs would revert to their desired channel number.
That was done by sending a gate command to the IR16-10, then a pause, then the 3 digit codes for that particular channel, then another pause - repeated 16 times...

I would normally not leave any gates open, except for a receiver that is expected to change channels regularly which ought to be set up as output #1 on the IR16-10.


Great for what it is designed for, the IR16-10 is really only needed when you have multiples of the same component in the same rack/room, and need to access them independently.

I've seen issues with the codes actually working if you feed the router an IR signal AND you feed that same signal to emitters. You ARE sending one output of the RP6 just to the router, right? And not through a distribution block?

To how many places are you actually routing these signals?


I've only used the RT8 and I'm assuming the operation is the same. As tgrugett says, it depends on what you're doing. I've set up one system where each command was a macro that was
#x port on
IR command
#x port off

And I've also done a setup where the macro to component x has a "port x on" command. Port x then stays open and the remote goes to a page of commands for that component. The HOME button from that page then has a "all ports off" command. Depends on what you're trying to do.

With the second method, if you have 16 satellite receivers, you can have a page that chooses which unit you want to control, which then page flips to the component control page; that one component control page can be used for all 16 components. To use the first method, you need a separate page for each numbered component.

call me crazy but this all seems like a lot of work. what's wrong with using enough RP-6's so you have enough ir ports? then just assigning each piece of equipment to its own port?

can someone please explain this to me! I'm serious.

Why in the hell would you want to go and make things simple??

Have the hours you have lost offset the cost of a new RP-6 yet??

roddy, i am serious when i ask these questions. i just dont understand why? or why not? what am i not understanding?

I know you are, me too.

As I get older and more experienced I want to f$ck with things less and less. Especially when there is a known solution out there. I have used several of the Xantech pieces, but I would pull it out in a heartbeat when adding a RP-6.

I need to do this on a theater install I did a few years ago...

ok so im not retarded because i could not figure out why you would want or need the xantech piece. it just does not make any sense in my mind to have it. glad i'm not the only one.

but i am still retarded non the less. =)

Yes please will somebody explain this to me as well? KISS keep it simple stupid!

We've been duped by our own willingness to help. Again. By a newbie. Again. GoolGaul opened a six month old thread to tell us what he had successfully done. Well, that's good for him. But then each of us has responded to the ORIGINAL thread posts, apparently without noticing that it's been six months and graphix713 is either finished or out of business for not finishing.

GoolGaul, if you have something to say that's not relevant to a current thread, please create a new thread. See the time we've all wasted here? When you add a comment to a thread, we're not going to go off in that direction (usually); we're going to add comments about the original topic. You get ignored because you're off topic (and also because you had no problem you needed help with) and we waste time trying to help on an old project.

Thanks.

Just a note on my earlier post...

The clean Xantec code list I mentioned here was created by member sydinstaller. It likely involved a TON of work and he was gracious enough to give it to me. It may have sounded as if I was the author. That was not my intention.