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Best value for getting decent bass for music only in-ceiling
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Post 1 made on Thursday December 27, 2012 at 04:43
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I've been reading so many threads on various forums researching this and really haven't gotten any closer to reaching a decision.

I've considered getting a pair of Jamo IC610 just to see how they sound, but if I don't like them, I just made a pretty large hole...

Given that its just music and the main time it will be very loud would be with a decent amount of people over so putting more lower cost speakers like a monoprice or various others has been another thought.

I plan to ultimately install speakers throughout a majority of the home, so if I'm not satisfied with the sound, I can replace with something else in the main area and move it to a hall or bathroom as long as it doesn't require a smaller cutout. But I would like to try and get the right speaker the first time.

To start, I'd like to try and get the family room sounding good and will be the most difficult location to fill with sound. It has a 20' flat ceiling and 9' tall openings on 3 sides. Floor is wood. Dimensions are 19'x20'

Thanks for the help!
Post 2 made on Thursday December 27, 2012 at 07:56
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The ceiling is 20' high? No in-ceiling speaker will sound good. I recommend you hire a local AV company to consult with on what you want to do. Also, if you want base, the add a subwoofer, and yes they make in-ceiling and in-wall ones.
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OP | Post 3 made on Thursday December 27, 2012 at 09:29
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Thanks for the reply TRCGroup, I am planning on getting a sub(s) in there somewhere. Depending on how high up on a wall they could go, I was contemplating adding a couple of the HDT in wall subs as they seem to be fairly well received. Right now, there is a sub next to the fireplace that can stay there until I settle on some ceiling speakers and see how they turn out.

And I do have a good AV company that does all of our low voltage. Probably over half the enjoyment to me is doing the research and getting my hands a little dirty. I realize I'm not going to have time myself to complete all that is ultimately going to get done, but I have already talked to our AV company about finishing out the house. I suppose I just like doing some things the hard way...

The end plan is for them to install a control4 system that will control the lutron radiora2 that is already installed, security, pool control, as well as the AV I currently have and would like to add a bit more before they finish it out.

Another option for the speakers would be to put them in the walls, but they will be about 10-11' up that way.
OP | Post 4 made on Thursday December 27, 2012 at 09:39
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I was going to attach a pic, but I can't find the attachment button, just an image link  - its probably right under my nose... 

On the front wall, above the fireplace or above the cabinets on either side of it, I have attic access from the other side of the wall and can make a full custom enclosure for that and use any type of drivers I would like if I'm not likely to get anywhere with regular in wall/ceiling speakers.
Post 5 made on Thursday December 27, 2012 at 23:08
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Who is your AV company? Datasmart? AV Guys?
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OP | Post 6 made on Friday December 28, 2012 at 01:58
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SES (Sound Entertainment Solutions) in Houston
Post 7 made on Friday December 28, 2012 at 09:14
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Those are great guys, you are in good hands with them.

To attach a pic, you have to first post it on Photobucket or similar, then post the link. The forum will take care of the rest. That way Daniel doesnt need to have a lot of unneeded storage.
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OP | Post 8 made on Friday December 28, 2012 at 13:06
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Here is what I'm dealing with in the family: There is a 55" TV over the fireplace, but there is still about 12-14" on either side of the TV and a lot of room over the top of the TV.

And yes, we've been very pleased with SES. They do the sound and security prewires for us and then deal directly with the customer getting them set up with whatever equipment/systems they desire. We don't act as middle man on that since the equipment is installed after closing, but we have heard nothing but positive things from our customers about them and have had customers specifically request them to do the AV work on any remodel/additions we have done for our previous customers.


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Post 9 made on Sunday December 30, 2012 at 20:06
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Ceiling speakers would be a huge mistake in that room. I would recommend some nice book shelf speakers, and maybe a sub built in to one of the cabinets below.
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OP | Post 10 made on Sunday January 6, 2013 at 01:57
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Thanks for the advice.  I'll plan to do the bookshelf speakers for sure and the height and openess of the room was the main concern for me as well. 

Here is a plan of the the common areas of the house that I am wanting to get filled with sound.  Like I said earlier, a majority of the time it will just be low volume so you can talk over the music, yet hear the music everywhere you go, but I would still like a decent enough ceiling speaker in the other locations so the few times we do want it to play loud that it still sounds decent (doesn't need to win any soundQ points, mainly clear and undistorted for those loud uses).  The black circles are hypothetical ceiling speakers.  All the green and yellow boxes are can lights and fixtures.  I already have wire anywhere I can't easily get wire to so that won't be an issue.  Going with some better bookshelves, would some of the lesser priced ceiling speakers like the polk 8" or monoprice be good?

What are your thoughts on putting a conventional sub box over in the dining room next to the china cabinet as there is about 22" of clearence in the recessed portion on the left wall?

Thanks!

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OP | Post 11 made on Sunday January 6, 2013 at 01:59
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Oh, and the entry, family and back gallery are 20' ceilings. The others, including dining, are 10'


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