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15" LCD Cantalever w/no Studs
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Post 1 made on Thursday November 11, 2004 at 17:41
vwpower44
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I have to mount a 15" Sharp LCD TV on a wallpapered wall. I will be using the cantalevered bracket by Omni-mount. The space where I need to put this TV is in between two studs, 20" apart. My questions is, will I be able to use toggle bolts to mount the LCD on the wall? I have mounted plasma TV's on the wall using toggle bolts but never with a cantalevered bracket. I don't want the toggles to break the drywall when the weight is extended on the bracket. Thanks for your input.

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Post 2 made on Thursday November 11, 2004 at 20:13
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That thought scares me. Sure, it would hold for awhile, but, with the extra stess of it being extended AND having people move it, bump it, and possibly 'hang on it', I would'nt do it.
Would it be possible to match the paper, splice it in after you installed a couple blocks between the existing studs, then put the piece of dryall in and mudded her up? I know that sounds like alot of work but it would be better than the phone call you might get at a later date.
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Post 3 made on Thursday November 11, 2004 at 20:38
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Mount the TV bracket just the way you had mentioned above, with toggle bolts, then run 2 thin steel wires inside a very thin self adhesive wire molding from the ceiling to the bracket that will support the LCD TV weight and alleviate a lot of stress on the toggle bolts. I have used this system many times and it works.

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Post 4 made on Thursday November 11, 2004 at 23:38
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On 11/12/04 01:38 ET, J. Bond said...
Mount the TV bracket just the way you had mentioned
above, with toggle bolts, then run 2 thin steel
wires inside a very thin self adhesive wire molding
from the ceiling to the bracket that will support
the LCD TV weight and alleviate a lot of stress
on the toggle bolts. I have used this system many
times and it works.

Wouldn't that totally negate the effort to try not to mess up the wallpaper if you had two wire tracks stuck to the wall going up to the ceiling? And, if the ceiling joists are 24", when the wall studs should be 16", you have to put the wiremold on a diagonal. I don't understand. Also, that might help hold a flush mount up, but you would still have the same stress on the wallboard when the mount is extended.

In response to the original post, why can't you move it one way or the other so that you hit a stud with the mount? If it is a cantilever, you can move the LCD over so that it is in the center where you want it, and it still covers the mount.

Just my .02...
OP | Post 5 made on Friday November 12, 2004 at 08:11
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The wall is only 24" wide. I am going to mock up the TV with the bracket an see if I can open the bracket one way and catch the stud in the corner. I will ley you guys know how it goes.

Mike
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Post 6 made on Friday November 12, 2004 at 17:33
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Mike, is there any reason you can't open the back side of the wall, insert a couple of 2x4's that are long enough to reach from stud to stud, place them flat against the drywall, secure with a couple of 3" screws at each end, and then lag-bold into the 2x4's through the wallpaper?

Closing the hole using the original piece cut out would be easy enough, and you wouldn't have to touch the drywall. I've done this even through outside walls when necessary; vinyll siding, of course. It's amazing how much you can do under siding when you learn how to R&R it.

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Another option that I just thought of: one or two retro-fit ceiling-fan support braces; the kind that reach from stud to stud, up to 24" apart, all through a 4" hole. The bracket should certainly cover a hole or patch that small.

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You could try using the bar and bracket alone, or with the box, using the fan-support studs/bolts. Rated for 50-pound fixtures/35-pound fans should be strong enough, I would think; some are even150-fixture/75 fan.

This message was edited by Larry Fine on 11/12/04 17:53 ET.
OP | Post 7 made on Friday November 12, 2004 at 23:54
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Today I mocked the bracket on the TV. I extend the bracket all the way and then pushed it to the left. I can hit the corner stud and make it work only mkaing the TV off center 4 inches. The customer was happy with theis because she did not want to spend alot of money. I have made the brackeys work like this on a few occasions, i just figured it would be better center. Since she is going to leave it pulled out most of the time angled at the breakfast room, you will not be able to it being off. Tanks for you input, and I like the idea of using hte ceiling fan support....brilliant...thanks again for your support.

Mike
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Post 8 made on Saturday November 13, 2004 at 20:45
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Through the same hole that you are bring the signal wires in, fit a 16" - 18" length of 1/2" piece of wood about 2" wide behind where the spline of the mount will be. Perhaps put a quick drywall screw in from the sheetrock to the wood to hold it temporarily in place.

Now carefully screw in the mount using the alotted holes into the wood behind to hold it. (pre-drill for #12 screw perhaps). The wood will support the bracket between the sheetrock.

I'ver used this technique with 42" plasma screens as well. If done right, it'll work like a charm. Honest

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