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Mitsubishi TS5053 and Pioneer VSX-D903S delima
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Post 1 made on Sunday January 9, 2000 at 21:11
JoeD
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I would like to verify some connection scenarios and/or get help/suggestions.

The Pioneer has S-video input for most of the video input devices but not the video input from the TV. The Mits has s-video input (ext-1) and the picture is much better than the composite input from the Pioneer but Mits doesn not have s-video out. Apparently the Pioneer only switches s-video input to s-video output and composite input to composite output. (please correct me if anyone knows otherwise). I can get the Pioneer s-video sources (DSS, DVD) to the Mits s-video input and it works. Problem: The Pioneer does not have s-video input from the Mits, thus I cannot use the TV (catv cable) as an input to the Pioneer. Second problem: The Mits, when in Home Theater mode takes all input only from ext-1 but allows viewing of cable A or B, by moving the signal to the Pioneer via composite and back thru ext-1. Is it possible to get the cable A or B to the Pioneer for home theater processing and back to the Mits on ext-1 via s-video? Or does anyone have alternatives connection scenarios allowing use of s-video? Also mixed into the scenario are DSS, DVD, as inputs to the Pioneer and cameras, DSS, VCR (no s-video out) that are modulated onto cable A. Cable B is basic CATV only. Cable A and B are inputs to the Mits and distributed thru the house. I suspect the design implies that I am supposed to get the cable channels thru the VCR as input to the Pioneer and out to the Mits, ext-1 via s-video, except the VCR doesn't have s-video out. Do I need a new VCR, new TV or new AVReceiver? Anyone have any thoughts? I'm confused!

Thanks, RJD
OP | Post 2 made on Monday January 10, 2000 at 01:43
n-vision
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I am confused as to why you need the video portion of the TV signal to route through your receiver.

If you are trying to always view on ext-1, then buy a Pronto or IRIQ and program a macro for input changes.

If you want to record off TV, then your VCR can handle that with its built in tuner.

Leave a post describing what you are trying to accomplish, and I will see if I can offer some solutions.

Derek
OP | Post 3 made on Monday January 10, 2000 at 17:45
JoeD
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Thanks for the reply... Apparently by design, the TV only takes input from ext-1 for viewing when in home theater but the tuner will take input from cable a or b and send it to the receiver allowing the receiver to provide surround sound. The receiver sends the video/sound back to the TV on ext-1, but the tv speakers are turned off.

Primary objective was to use all s-video for all inputs, including the cable a and b from tv. Second objective was to provide surround sound via receiver on the cable a and b channels.
OP | Post 4 made on Tuesday January 11, 2000 at 04:50
n-vision
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I hate to say this...but I am still a little fuzzy on this one...

I think you are referring to a Theatre mode in the TV that you are attempting to access. Does this theatre mode then handle the Surround processing, or does it alter the Image as well? I am not a Mits dealer, and couldn't quickly find the details of this 'theater mode'

I believe that you are using your receiver for all audio programming, with external speakers at all locations. If this is the case, I am lost as to why you need to use Ext-1.

I hate being stumped, so please provide a few more details....

Derek
OP | Post 5 made on Tuesday January 11, 2000 at 18:28
joeD
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I've been thinking about how to explain this. I'll try.

The Mits TV home theater mode apparently shuts down the TV speakers, routes the viewed video/audio signal to the AV receiver for surround sound. The TV accepts the video back on ext1 (and only on ext1) (it has to do this because the input video may be a source only available from the AV receiver). Thus, whatever you tune on TV tuner from cable A or B, the video/audio is processed thru the receiver. If you select another video source (other than TV) on the AV receiver, that source is what you see on Mits. All output from AV receiver goes to Mist Tv on ext1. The TV doesn't do any audio processing in home theater mode. Apparently, this home theater mode is something unique to the Mits TV. It is under the advanced options of the setup menu. And as far as I can determine, you do not get any options when in home theater mode on this TV. I have another TV with "theater" mode and it processes the "surround sound" and puts the output on separate FronCenterRear speaker connections.

I think now, my goal was to always leave the TV in home theater mode and control the video sources in the AV receiver or TV tuner and do all audio processing in the AV receiver. This, I think, I can do, using only composite inputs to the AV receiver. But I wanted to use s-video, where available, (which started this post), but s-video isn't available on the AV receiver input from TV and the AV receiver apparently won't pass the composite signal input to an s-video output. (see previous posts on this area).

I am trying to make both the connections as good as possible and default operation simple so anyone can use the system (without buying a Pronto, I'm waiting on the color model).

Thanks for your patience,

RJD
OP | Post 6 made on Thursday January 13, 2000 at 17:23
JoeD
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I think I found the solution to my problems discussed in this thread in other posts on this forum. Monster, Covid, and Entech sell bi-directional composite to/from s-video converters.
[Link: gohts.com]
Also I will probably buy an AV switch to manage the input devices. Sima, JVC and RCA are some of the AV switches. Thanks.


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