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Hooking up TIVO
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Post 16 made on Sunday May 11, 2003 at 12:36
Impaqt
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Oh, and even at its lowest Quality setting, Tivos record higher resolution that ANY Standard VHS VCR. So 2nd Gen dupes come out with the same quality(Or better) as a VHS Recording.

Oh, but you have SVHS maybe? How many of your friends have a SVHS deck... And NOT one of those goofy Quasi units everyone is pushing now a days....

Post 17 made on Monday May 12, 2003 at 10:42
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On 05/10/03 21:33, G50AE said...
Spiky, since as you say, you are a bit behind,
let me catch you up. TIVO is basically a computer
hard drive that is used as a VCR. They have through
marketting only, managed to obtain a sizable share
of the VCR market. They provide no real advantages
over a real VCR and have several drawbacks.

First, I was being sarcastic and pointing out (to those who are capable of understanding) that you are incorrect about Tivo=VCR. Are you really this obtuse??

Drawback 1- You have to pay a subscription to
use a home theater product you own. What other
VCR system requires or required this?

Not necessarily. And I already subscribe to someone just to get the channels, what's a little more? Figure it into your total cost of entertainment. If it isn't for you, fine. FWIW, Dish has PVRs that do NOT cost any more. A DVD burner will set you back about the same as a Tivo with Lifetime Subscription, meaning no monthly payments. And some people set up their own PVR on a PC they already own, saving plenty o cash.

Drawback 2- The material recorded cannot be removed
from the VCR to use on another unit. This is
akin to having a VHS unit with the tape permanently
stuck in the deck. Some people would counter
that you can back-up the information to tape,
but you are making a copy and as such suffer from
degredation inevitable in any copy process. Why
not just start with a recording on tape?

Sure it can. Copy to a VCR/DVD/PC/etc. Use quality components and there is no degredation.

Drawback 3- Sharing recorded movies is a heck
of alot harder. If you have a recording that
a friend wants to watch, you need to either make
a back-up copy, lend out the whole unit, or have
them watch it at your place. A tape based system
allows you to share recordings alot easier.

The day I loan you one of my movies is the day you broke into my house and stole it.

Drawback 4- If the unit requires servicing, it
must be done by TIVO themselves. Every city has
one or two repair places that can work on VCRs
and have you up and running prety fast, most of
these places cannot work on the TIVO recorders.

Are you for real? What did you type this on? Tivo is a Linux computer, fix it yourself. Not to mention that Tivo is a software company. My Tivo is a Philips, there are also Hughes and Sony boxes and some others. If there was a serious hardware problem it would be fixed by the hardware mfgr. So you obviously know NOTHING about Tivo. Perhaps you meant Replay/Sonic Blue which makes both their hardware and software.

Basically TIVO has gotten where they are today
by marketting only. They have not provided a
product with any new features or advantages that
were not present with the S-VHS recording system.
Basically TIVO is alot like Monster Cable, Sony,
and BOSE, all the money is spent on marketting
so that the customer can think they have a great
product.

You so clearly have never used a PVR it is absolutely incredible that you have such strong opinions. Try one out for a month somehow and you will see. I no longer wish I could see a show, I simply tell my DTivo that I want it, and then go watch it sometime.

A PVR is not a VCR, it is TV on YOUR terms, not someone elses. This is why there are lawsuits against the providing companies, Hollywood and their ilk are against the consumers taking control of their entertainment back.

This message was edited by Spiky on 05/12/03 11:08.
Post 18 made on Monday May 12, 2003 at 16:17
equium
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although i own a ReplayTV system, i must say that DVR's are going to gain more popularity as time goes on. you really need to own one to really understand how life changing a DVR can be. there is no longer a mad rush to get our little children in bed by 8pm so we can start watching primetime. i just take my time knowing that when i do finally sit down, i can begin watching whatever i'm recording without having to wait for the tape to finish, and with the replay unit, it skips commercials automatically. if you dont have one, get one, and you will never look back. IMHO
Post 19 made on Friday May 16, 2003 at 02:00
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i love my tivo for over two years now, and my wife loves it even more, its the only piece of gear i own that my wife cant live without, they must be doing something right
Post 20 made on Tuesday April 20, 2004 at 00:49
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The only REAL unique feature of Tivo's service is the "Recomendations" where Tivo recomends shows it thinks you will like based off your other recording habits. EVERY OTHER feature is a feature you can get for free. Go take a look at myhtpc.com. There are software packages where you can build your own PVR/DVD jukebox/MP3 player/etc..... with no monthly fee that will allow you to add a DVD burner to give copies of Buffy to friends, a high speed internet connection so you can watch your recorded programs from any net connection in the world (including a wireless laptop on the deck). All sorts of goodies. Tivo is great, not the greatest though.
Post 21 made on Tuesday April 20, 2004 at 01:35
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Main Entry: flib·ber·ti·gib·bet
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English flepergebet
: a silly flighty person

Great moniker, love it!

There is a second advantage. I would have to go out on a limb and call Tivo a PNP device, but only when compaired to building your own Linux box for TV recording.

Don't forget that Tivo requires no subscription fee if you pay heavy on the downstroke.
Post 22 made on Tuesday April 20, 2004 at 18:23
cb1
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What? I dont hear anything. Oh, that cuz "g" has "its" foot in "its" mouth again and cant speak.
Get a clue!

cb1
why have a nice system if you cant operate it, program the remote the right way the FIRST time!
Post 23 made on Thursday April 22, 2004 at 13:49
Spiky
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On 04/20/04 00:49, fliberdygibits said...
The only REAL unique feature of Tivo's service
is the "Recomendations" where Tivo recomends shows
it thinks you will like based off your other recording
habits. EVERY OTHER feature is a feature you
can get for free. Go take a look at myhtpc.com.
There are software packages where you can build
your own PVR/DVD jukebox/MP3 player/etc..... with
no monthly fee that will allow you to add a DVD
burner to give copies of Buffy to friends, a high
speed internet connection so you can watch your
recorded programs from any net connection in the
world (including a wireless laptop on the deck).
All sorts of goodies. Tivo is great, not the
greatest though.

Ok, just as a reference to my point of view:
I am a DVR fan and own 2 DTivos. I am not a crazed, "Tivo is the only way" nut, but I am a crazed, "DVR is the only way" nut. I would be somewhat happy with a Dish or cable DVR (if cable didn't suck) and would be quite happy with an SA Tivo or Replay box matched up with my DirecTV, but I am insanely happy with DTivos. If there was a Replay or PC-DVR integrated box with a decent channel provider at a decent price, I'd probably like that more than the DTivos. But there isn't.

But I gotta say that directing people to a website that doesn't exist yet is pretty strange. Also, have you factored into this math the cost of the HTPC in question? And the software? Since most HTPCs run over $1000 (or even a couple K) for optimal configurations, the comparison to my $50 and $99 DTivos is pretty poor. Even at $5/month fee (one fee that covers both boxes) it will be years before the price differential is covered by a PC. I might add that a broadband connection to the net costs considerably more than any DVR monthly fee.

This message was edited by Spiky on 04/22/04 16:23.
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