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HDTV's are the really worth it?
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Post 1 made on Friday August 17, 2001 at 19:28
Brett DiMichele
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In 10 or so years HDTV will be in a semi main stream
position. Analog broadcast will never be retired. Let's
face it, many people have analog TV's that they will
not replace untill they fail. Some Tube TV's can last
upwards of 13 or more years with nary a glitch.

Currently there are very few broadcast channels that
are making use of HDTV broadcast. As time goes on this
will undoubtedly change but my point is still the same.

Analog TV's have come a very long way in the past 10
years. Even budget priced big screens (yes that is an
oxymoron) have superb picture quality. My RCA 61" can
display a maximum of 900 lines horizontal resolution
and even DVD's are far lower quality than the TV can
display (480 lines).

My mother's fiance bought a Pioneer TheaterWide 16x9
Projection HDTV and then he went out and spent 3x more
for the RCA HDTV DSS setup (Just the HDTV DSS's are a
good 400 dollars more than analog versions) and to be
quite brutaly honest I am NOT impressed.

Perhaps it's
just that the Pioneer TV is not as high quality as the
$3900.00 price tag reflects. But in my honest opinion
there is no comparison in picture color and sharpness
between my RCA and his Pioneer HDTV.

I am not here to step on the toes of HDTV set owners.
It is, after all your money and your choice. When my
RCA wears out (hopefully 10 years+ from now) then I
will upgrade to HDTV. But for now I am very pleased
with the quality the good old NTSC Analog provides.

Sincerely
Brett DiMichele
Post 2 made on Monday August 20, 2001 at 12:47
dougw
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Brett,

It may partially be the source material you saw demoed. I've heard that some of the DSS material being broadcast as HD is upconverted and not true HD.

Doug
Post 3 made on Monday August 20, 2001 at 13:24
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Well, I for one think that having an HDTV just for viewing 16x9 DVD movies is worth it. I was getting real tired of watching great movies with great sound on a 32" 4:3 set from about 15' away.

I now have a 53" HDTV and the 16x9 display is well worth it for me to view a movie correctly.

I still think the broadcast HDTV content available is a bit weak or I'm not willing to pay out SO much for so little, I never have sub'd to HBO or showtime and prob won't in the future.

rich
Post 4 made on Monday August 20, 2001 at 13:40
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I passed on HDTV because I thought there wasn't enuff programming to make it worth it. Lately though I am kind of regretting it because I am a big dvd fan and apparently progressive scan only works on hdtv. When I bought my 61 hitachi tv I wasn't even thinking of dvd. knowing that i don't have the best possible picture on my tv is distracing me to no end :-) i mean i want to feel the saliva when people scream on screen!!!

i will probably wait until the end of next year when i finish my basement and make an exclusive movie watching area down there. then i will buy a hdtv.
Post 5 made on Monday August 20, 2001 at 20:36
Brett DiMichele
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Great replies.

I didn't want a 16:9 Set.. Yeah I know that is the
"Correct" format for true movie experiance but for
regular TV I wouldn't want to switch back and forth
between modes.

As I said in my original post, if my set lasts 10
years (which I hope it does) then by that time HDTV
will have become more mainstream and then I will go
that route. But I still beleive that the NTSC Analog
standard will remain the true "standard" for atleast
the next decade.

Post 6 made on Monday August 20, 2001 at 22:16
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Agreed Brett
Post 7 made on Tuesday August 21, 2001 at 15:08
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"... but for regular TV I wouldn't want to switch back and forth..."

That's exactly why I kept my 27" 4:3 set, parked right next to the 53" widescreen. Besides there is little to no market for a perfectly good used TV these days. That's why I now have 6 TV's in the house.

Post 8 made on Tuesday August 21, 2001 at 19:16
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I'm in Australia and HDTV is only just coming in (very few broadcasters - even less sets). I desperately needed to upgrade my analogue set and thought about HDTV but the price and lack of content put me right off. Instead, I got a high end 34in Sony WEGA with v compression, component in etc. DVD picture quality is nothing short of brilliant and I haven't even had time to calibrate it yet! If the HD content becomes better, I will just get a set top box.

Andy
Post 9 made on Tuesday August 21, 2001 at 20:02
Brett DiMichele
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rmassey,

I don't have the room for that :)

Andy,

I agree with you 100%... HDTV is not common in the U.S
either, there are less than 5 channels broadcast in
HDTV signal that I am aware of.. And like some said
earlier in this post, some HDTV signals are downgraded.

My RCA is a Digital with Component Inpup, 3 Line Digital Comb Filter and 900 Lines of Horiz Rez and
that exceedes what the best of DVD's and DVD players
can do.. The picture is absolutely astounding. The
other nice features of the RCA Projection sets are that
it has a true NTSC Standard 6500 Kelvin "Color Warmth"
which is also adjustable, and the color guns
convergence are also user adjustable.

I made the right choice, especialy considering I bought
my set for $1400.00 at the time when they sold for
$2100 (Montgomery Wards, next to the last day they were
in buisness)
Post 10 made on Tuesday August 21, 2001 at 23:15
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Brett,

Only 5 HD channels? That is surprising - I thought you guys would have heaps. We've only got 5 free to air channels and at the moment they broadcast absolute crap (content) programs. Can you believe that one of these channels (a major network) doesn't even broadcast in stereo! People think that HDTV will change everything but the networks aren't going to invest millions in new broadcast equipment and then suddenly find extra $$$ for better content. As I say to my friends, the content will remain the same. Good job I have satellite!

I reckon they will have a revolt on their hands if they switch off the analogue networks as planned (both US and Oz).

I too am very happy with my direct view SD purchase. The only minor drawback is that I want to build a HTPC and most of the "good" gear is really only suited to HD or projectors.

Andy
Post 11 made on Wednesday August 22, 2001 at 00:55
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Brett theres only 2-3 high def channels on direct tv...and if they have basic programing chances are they only have the directv demo loop on ch.199 and who knows if thats hooked up or converged correctly...and analog IS going to be gone by 2006...the U.S. government is taking that bandwidth...tv stations DO NOT have a choice in this matter...your tv may have 900 lines horizontal...but can your tv even display 480p...no?...oh...ok...robert
Post 12 made on Wednesday August 22, 2001 at 03:19
Brett DiMichele
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Robert,

Hope your toes are not in too much pain.

I guess time will tell the true story. I
suppose we will all be "forced" by the
government to buy HDTV sets because they
are "taking over" NTSC Analog Broadcast Freq?

I don't quite think so.

Thanks for your opinion.
Post 13 made on Wednesday August 22, 2001 at 10:59
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i said the government was taking that bandwidth...there not going make consumers buy anything...you can keep your rca but your going to be buying hdtv to analog external converter box...although the government might be bumping the deadline till 2010....robert
Post 14 made on Wednesday August 22, 2001 at 20:04
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and when did i ever say "forced" or "taking over"...or anyone for that matter...making up stuff is fun huh. robert
Post 15 made on Wednesday August 22, 2001 at 20:26
Brett DiMichele
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Rob,


"the U.S. government is taking that bandwidth"

Maybe my comprehension of english is poor because
to me that looks like they are taking it over... :)

And yes the HDTV set I spoke of is set up correctly.
perhaps it is just that Pioneer's HDTV 16:9 set is not
what it's cracked up to be.. I dunno... I am pleased
with my sudo "digital" projection on an analog signal.

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