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RM-VL610 Macro -- Ideas to prolong "Pause" steps in macro to select input for Aquos D64 LCD
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Post 1 made on Tuesday December 22, 2009 at 02:21
bodhi78_rc
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I like this remote very much. It looks nice and feels nice holding it in hand. It does almost everything I need to do in my 6-device system. The only thing I have most trouble with is how to program delays in a macro. I have the Aquos D64 HDTV, and the power up period for this TV is very very long. Often time, when the TV is ready to receive the Input select command, the RM-VL610 macro is already ended!!! I've tried inserting many pauses of 0.4 seconds in a 16-step macro, and also tried many different ways to cause artificial delay such as inserting control steps for devices that seem to take longer for this remote to transmit the signal...etc. I have not timed the exact interval, but I know that it would take longer than 5 seconds for the Aquos TV to power ON and be ready to receive Input select commands, and a 16-step macro execution is barely longer than 5 seconds.

Does anybody have experience with this particular problem with this remote? how did you solve it?
Post 2 made on Tuesday December 22, 2009 at 23:17
Daniel Tonks
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Yes, that's something I mentioned in my review... there really isn't much of a workaround. But here's a couple of suggestions:

* Separate your main power and input macros. For example, put System On as SC1, and then use the device macros to change inputs.

* Try learning the longest "micro macro" you can manage. This might make it possible to extend your 0.4 second delay up to 1-2 seconds per key push (of course use commands that don't do anything on your system).

* I don't recall whether it's possible to include [REC]+[Play] in a macro. I suspect it isn't. However I seem to recall that some remotes (I'm not sure they were Sony) replicated a 3-second hold time that some devices required for the REC command when the button was pressed briefly, and this could be used to extend macro delay time. However, I'm thinking this was NOT for Sony remotes, but it's worth doing a forum search for.
OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday December 23, 2009 at 19:05
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Daniel - Thanks for the suggestions.

I've tried searching for "long signal" in the forums. The most people talked about was the Sony DSP long signal for certain Sony receivers. No Rec+Play discussion. I've tried this combo on this remote VCR component, since I don't have Sony VCR in my setup, but this remote does not give us a 3-sec hold time with these.

The micro-macro might work, but it's not gonna be easy, I'll try combine some of the display/info signals to see if it'll work.

In the mean time, your first suggestion seems to be the most logical. I can program the SC 1-4 macros as power up and input selections sequences, and then use the Component select to "correct" the input selections when the TV did not catch up with the SC macro when it ends. This is also handy when switching activity, e.g. from a TV mode to a DVD mode or to any other mode.
OP | Post 4 made on Thursday December 24, 2009 at 17:27
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To follow up on Daniel's suggestion 3 about using a "long signal" to simulate a delay.

I've also found in my forum searches, the Zenith VCR REC button would cause a delay of 3 seconds. So I set this VCR on my other remote (URC-8820) to check, and this was true! The signal is 3-second long. But when I teach this to the VL610, it would not learn the whole signal, just a short burst, so this was not possible to cause a long delay.

In any case, I just want to report this to save others some time searching for the same thing. This Zenith VCR REC signal is pretty useful for anybody who wants to do this with URC remotes. The URC-8820 can program a 20-step macro, so it is possible to delay up to 60 seconds doing nothing :-)

Last edited by bodhi78_rc on December 24, 2009 18:47.
Post 5 made on Friday December 25, 2009 at 19:42
Daniel Tonks
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Yeah, the only hope here for the 3-second REC command would be if the Sony was the one replicating the delay... and you've confirmed that it did not.

See if you can do anything with micro macros. It's not ideal, I know.
OP | Post 6 made on Saturday December 26, 2009 at 19:11
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Daniel,

Mighty mighty micro-macro, indeed :-)

Thanks for the great advises! I have successfully created a 1.2 second delay button using the micro-macro feature. I used 3 other remotes as donors and by pressing the 3 display/info buttons real fast, this VL610 was able to capture 4 signals. After about a few times practicing pushing the donor buttons (flexing the fingers!), it only took 3 tries for me to get the signals captured. All together, it took about 5 minutes to do this, I'm pleasantly surprise that this VL610 is that capable, consider how inexpensive it is!

I've timed one System Macro with 7 device steps and 9 delay steps at 13 seconds. So that was roughly about 1.2 seconds for each delay. Furthermore, since this remote counts each device selection as 1 step in the macro. I could also increase the time by learning the power on/off and input selections as single buttons, and cut down to 5 device steps and 11 delays in a macro. And that macro execution should be about 15 seconds.

Again, thanks for helping us to get the max capability out of this remote.
Post 7 made on Monday December 28, 2009 at 18:34
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Glad to hear it worked!


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