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CRTC offers shutting down OTA Transmitters
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Post 1 made on Thursday August 21, 2014 at 16:37
keaster2000
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I hope everyone on this forum will let the CRTC know their opinion of this suggestion the CRTC is offering to broadcasters in Canada.

The deadline is September 19th

~~At the same time, the regulator is proposing allowing local TV stations to shut down their transmitters — a move that might not sit well with consumers who prefer to get their TV programming over the air.


You can read the whole story here:
[Link: ca.finance.yahoo.com]
 
Post 2 made on Friday August 22, 2014 at 18:06
Nueatit
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This is all about the $$$$, since people are dumping cable/sat and going OTA or internet. It also runs in tune with the FCC in the USA, getting rid of regular broadcast for mobile spps, again $$$.

No matter what the CRTC does or says, we will pay more for tv in the future, just look at cellular, all rate plans are more $$.
Post 3 made on Friday August 22, 2014 at 19:00
cocoa
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Thank you Keaster and Nueatit. One issue that our government CAN help with is measuring audiences. In Canada, this is way higher than the BBM (our poor cousin Nielsen rating. We had one of their BBM journals a few years ago which assumed we had cable. We didn't.
OP | Post 4 made on Friday August 22, 2014 at 19:36
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I've done diaries for the BBM for radio, many times...I'm waiting for them to call me again. Should be soon. If they can measure what people are listening to on the radio, why not on broadcast TV. If I'm not mistaken I think the BBM radio diary asks how you get your TV.

The thread for the OTA comments on the CRTC's site has grown quite considerably since just yesterday. All good comments; some make pretty good points.

Don't forget the cut-off date to post your opinion is September 19th

You can see what others are saying about OTA here:
[Link: consultation.crtc.gc.ca]
Post 5 made on Saturday August 23, 2014 at 07:17
Daniel Tonks
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*Someone* does television in Canada.  I know I was asked to keep a television journal a number of years ago. Also had one of those radio journals in the past year or so.
Post 6 made on Sunday August 31, 2014 at 15:10
Bruce H.Campbell
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That's a hell of a birthday present to wake up to!
I got more to say but it might be after all the chores I have to do first
but I'm riled up.
More to follow.......
OP | Post 7 made on Sunday August 31, 2014 at 16:13
keaster2000
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If you've read what others are saying on the CRTC forum on this topic...rest assured: You're not alone!
Post 8 made on Monday September 1, 2014 at 01:24
Bruce H.Campbell
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Oh, I'm reading.....
Post 9 made on Saturday September 13, 2014 at 16:43
OBICO
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Sorry to be the lone ***** in this thread, but I see the broadcasters' point of view.  You wouldn't expect to receive a newspaper free.  Remember Canadian satlellite and cable poroviders are forced to pay the U.S. local stations a retransmission fee, something Canadian broadcasters aren't.

Look at the bright side, you could pick up alot more U.S. channels.  If CIII-6 Ayr ceases terrestrial broadcasting, WBXZ-56 would be availbe to more southern Ontario viewers on RF17.  If CHCH ceases broadcasting on RF 15, you could pick up 3 new PBS channels on WPSU-3 Clearfield, PA.  [Link: wpsx.psu.edu]

    Also note that when the U.S. Class A stations are required to relocated to below the RF32 channel in 2018, some of their new frequencies (although LP) might be the same ones currenlty used for Canadian broadcasters.

    I will make a link to Trip Ericson's Rabbit Ears Repack Checker in the thread titled
"2015 US TV REVERSE AND FORWARD AUCTION".

 

Last edited by OBICO on September 14, 2014 16:08.
Post 10 made on Monday September 15, 2014 at 11:08
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I can appreciate that there are still some people out there that need OTA as they have no alternative. Cable may not be available in the area and due to location (tree's etc) even a sat dish could become a very expensive install.

I don't think any public funded Canadian station should be allowed to turn off their OTA signal, after all we are already paying for them. If Ivan and the gang want to shut off CTV and the others, go ahead. 90% of what I can watch on those channels I get on US stations from across the lake. And what I cannot see, I probably can get on line or won't miss.
But we also should be very certain our government is not feeding them anything. They shut down the OTA signal, don't come asking for any help. As a tax payer, I don't want any of my money going into their pockets.
Post 11 made on Wednesday September 24, 2014 at 11:47
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When discussing shutting off the OTA transmission CBC and the others are all for it, they believe if they have better control over how they send their signals to Rogers etc, they can get paid for the signal.
When it comes to CBC being a publicly funded station (and advertising revenue) they felt they were similar to a city bus. Publicly funded, there are adverts in buses and we, the users, also pay to ride the bus. So why shouldn't we pay to watch their shows.

Didn't know the CRTC had anything to do with our public funded bus systems?

Not the same thing CBC.... What they should have compared themselves to is RADIO. I can pick up lots of radio stations for free as an end user, and I get to listen to all the advertising too. A good station with the music / programming I want to listen to will get my attention and advertisers wanting to reach my demographic will spend their money there. Pretty simple business 101.
If I don't want ad based programming I have a choice, I can subscribe to Satellite radio services or I can also search through the 1000's of on line stations available (and listen to their adverts).
I have choices.
Shutting down OTA signals still personally leaves me choices, unfortunately for Canadian television programming, my choices will come from the other side of the border.
And I hope Netflix holds their ground against the CRTC, heck, if they really want to rile up a whole lot of Canadians, just tell the CRTC to @$%& it, and pull out of Canada until they get their heads out of their .... If that doesn't light up the phone lines, then we are way to soft up here and deserve what we get.
Post 12 made on Wednesday September 24, 2014 at 18:26
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The CBC is investing spending money transforming their AM radio1 signals (latest ones in Bancroft, ON and New Denver, B.C.)  to FM at the expense of shutting down O-T-A TV signals.

     Why not shut down all of their O-T-A signals and force people to double pay for their radio programs too?



 


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