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What's the deal with WNYO?
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Post 1 made on Wednesday December 29, 2010 at 13:22
keaster2000
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I remember someone mentioning in the forum that WNYO was applying to change their directional signal to one more widely available. I just came from an antenna I installed a couple of months ago, where they lost channel 2. I got 2 back, but lost 49. I've found 49 difficult to get ever since they went from 34 to 49.

I coulnd't find anything on the FCC web page...I was probably looking in the wrong place.

Any help is appreciated!
Post 2 made on Thursday December 30, 2010 at 09:27
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WNYO applied to install a less directional antenna on, 7/24/2009 and the FCC accepted the application, but has not ruled on it as of yet. It could be the FCC is very backlog with applications. It could also have to do with the new ruling of the FCC to share TV broadcast spectrum with wireless broadband providers, rummer is the FCC plans to repack the TV band to once again auction off more spectrum. Perhaps WNYO on 49 sits in that spectrum, or perhaps not, but it could be another factor in why the application has been sitting so long. Here is a good search engine for the FCC.
http://fccinfo.com/
Post 3 made on Friday December 31, 2010 at 11:06
Nueatit
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Nothing much has changed with 49 since they switched to directional, I'm north of Toronto but having difficulties with chn 29 now between the hours of 6 to 8 PM, missing always Judge Judy. However, during this time the commercials come in again.
Post 4 made on Wednesday January 12, 2011 at 17:04
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Sinclair has applied for an omnidirectional signal from their Wyoming site for WNYO; no change in their ERP.
This signal is supposedly to allow their ssignal to reach into Rochester; maybe across Lake Ontario.
From my locale in Durham Region, a slight nudge of the antenna from where WIVB, WKBW, and WGR are located, in WNYO comes, a bit more of a nudge and in comes the other Sinclair station WUTV.
WNGS has an application to move to channel 46 DT, now that CIII will be closing their channel 55 transmitter; more gas for that topic fire...
There seems to be some indication that WPXJ may be going for a power increase; either that or it is an FCC misfiling.
OP | Post 5 made on Friday January 14, 2011 at 19:18
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Hey SunnyJim:

A couple of things I'd like to comment about...

WNYO dissappeared from my parent's TV the day they went from 34 to 49, I noticed I lost it on my upstiars TV because it's on a staionary antenna. Hopefully this change, or ANY change results in catching their signal easier.

You would think that here in St. Catharines, it would be eaiser for me to get stations like, WNGS, and WPXJ. I don't get them at all. I'm below the escarpment, but even antennas I've put up on the escarpment, one most recent was in Welland, and I thought for sure they'd get WPXJ and maybe even Erie, but no such luck. According to the chart, WPXJ is at 455kw and WIVB is at 790kw and WUTV is 1000kw. WIVB and WUTV are two of more reliable signals I get.

As for Global... I'm not surprised. Their analog signal at channel 55 is so snowy and weak down my way It's not worth watching--never was, but is Daniel's chart is correct, they want to go from 3kw to 100kw? That would be a great improvement to the south, I'm assuming, but I thought they were allotted channel 48. If Global went off the air across the country tomorrow--I wouldn't miss them.

Thanks for all the great info SunnyJim
Post 6 made on Saturday January 29, 2011 at 11:39
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Let's see if I can clarify some things here.

First of all, WNGS does not currently have a petition to relocate to channel 46. Before the transition, they were allotted channel 46, but is now operating on channel 7 with no plans to relocate in the forseeable future. They are operating from a low tower at 26 kW.

Second, here's what happened with WNYO. WNYO had been on channel 34 from Grand Island, at 175 kW but severely directional to the south to protect the vacant channel 34 allotment that was to be the transitional channel for CHEX in Peterborough. As a result, almost no power went north into Canada. Sinclair petitioned to relocate the signal back to channel 49 utilizing the same tower and antenna they used for the analog--which is closer to WGRZ than anything else. The analog antenna was directional toward Buffalo, with a null to the east-southeast. See here: [Link: rabbitears.info]

Now, WNYO has filed to replace the directional antenna with an omni at the same power level. The FCC must wait for the Canadian government to sign off on this before it can be approved. Even if it is approved, I suspect most viewers will not see a significant improvement from this antenna replacement, since most directions other than the southeast are already getting close to the maximum power already.

I hope that helps to clarify things.

- Trip
OP | Post 7 made on Saturday January 29, 2011 at 19:19
keaster2000
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Thanks for the info, Trip.
Post 8 made on Tuesday April 12, 2011 at 20:24
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I still cannot get WUTV or WNYO here in Jordan Station. I would love to know how people in St. Catharines are getting WUTV.
Post 9 made on Wednesday April 13, 2011 at 02:50
Daniel Tonks
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I haven't been able to get WUTV for the past day or so. However my rotor is still broken, so the antenna is off... although where it's pointing I can usually still get that channel. I received one viewer report on Monday from someone unable to get WUTV.
Post 10 made on Friday April 15, 2011 at 16:26
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I'm 116km from WUTV and get it day and night across the lake. Jordan Station is on low ground so the path is badly obstructed.
Donny Jaguar
Post 11 made on Friday April 15, 2011 at 18:33
Daniel Tonks
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Well, WUTV was *definitely* broadcasting last night.


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