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Ottawa Area HDTV Channel Map?
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OP | Post 16 made on Thursday November 16, 2006 at 11:22
Roger1818
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Please Disregard this duplicate post.
OP | Post 17 made on Thursday November 16, 2006 at 11:24
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On November 14, 2006 at 11:00, 026163 said...
good job guys, that list will be of great help to all
of those in the Ottawa area wishing to recieve OTA.

Thanks. :)

my one question, is that one PBS tower actually at 720m
? Thats enormous if it's right. The CN Tower is only like
550m. It surprises me that a smalltown station could afford
a tower that tall. actually now i'm thinking it is a typo.
that doesn't sound right.

The number I used for all antenna heights is "Antenna Height Above Average Terrain" (AAT). Looking at it again, something doesn't seem right as according to the FCC the "Antenna Height Above Ground Level" (AGL) for WCFE-DT under STA is 0m. Their modified construction permit to increase power to 100kW has the antenna at 737m AAT and 125m AGL. The current analog transmitter is 741m AAT and 129m AGL.
OP | Post 18 made on Monday November 27, 2006 at 16:14
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On October 23, 2006 at 15:08, William777 said...
I believe I saw a posting in the AVS forums for the Watertown
market that WWNY would not be implementing their CP for
full power on channel 35, but will revert to digital on
Channel 7 in Feb. 2009. I beleive that WNYF-CA has applied
to broadcast digitally on 35, so that would likely be
on low power, or at least with the same null to the north
to protect CKWS-TV-3 channel 36 Smiths Falls (actually,
between Smiths falls and Franktown).

I asked WWNY about this and was told that they will be implementing the CP to broadcast at 750kW "shortly after January 1, 2007" and they will revert to channel 7 after the analog shutdown.
Post 19 made on Wednesday December 6, 2006 at 13:42
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Did somebody know when CBC will broadcast at full power in Montreal? I'm getting PBS WCFE (57-1 and 57-2) and VPT only. I'm located in the south-west part of the city.
OP | Post 20 made on Monday December 11, 2006 at 16:05
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On December 6, 2006 at 13:42, zarathoustra said...
Did somebody know when CBC will broadcast at full power
in Montreal? I'm getting PBS WCFE (57-1 and 57-2) and
VPT only. I'm located in the south-west part of the city.

I would ask Marc on the Digital Home Canada CBC-HD Official Thread. The biggest problem is not so much the transmit power, but that the transmitter is currently on top of the CBC building east of downtown and Mt. Royal is blocking the signal. They are planning on moving the transmitter to the top of Mt. Royal but are having problems.
Post 21 made on Monday February 5, 2007 at 13:27
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WWTI is very tough to get consistently even on analog at 1 million watts on channel 50. I lived on the 7th floor apartment on Meadowlands near Fisher and I built a 3 foot long yagi specifically for channel aimed at Watertown to pick it up. At night, especially in the summer, and in the early first few hours of the morning reception was static free, however during the day in bad propagation the image was strong enough to always stay in color but clearly multipathing and fuzzing in and out with tropospheric activity. I was using a very low noise preamp 7775 - forget the model name I think Channelmaster - designed for UHF TV.

I could always get channel 57 (Saranac Lake - NY) and channel 18 (both PBS) no problem all the time no static with other antennas that I built and the same pre-amp..
Post 22 made on Thursday February 8, 2007 at 08:06
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On November 13, 2006 at 17:00, Roger1818 said...
FYI, Daniel and I created an East
Ontario & West Quebec HDTV Channel Map
. If you have
any comments or suggestions, please let me know.

Just a minor correction to the list of stations at the bottom.
CHCH and CITS originating transmitters are in Hamilton. (actually Stoney Creek if you want to nit-pick:-))

a very nice page btw.
OP | Post 23 made on Thursday February 8, 2007 at 11:36
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On February 8, 2007 at 08:06, douglee said...
CHCH and CITS originating transmitters are in Hamilton.
(actually Stoney Creek if you want to nit-pick:-))

Good point. I will correct that.

a very nice page btw.

Thanks! :)
Post 24 made on Monday April 16, 2007 at 11:43
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I just purchased a HD television - RCA26 inch. I have been able to get 4.1 and 9.1 pretty well, although the HD broadcasts of the games have had some signal loss every minute or so - but not enough to lose sight of the fact that the picture is perfect most of the time. I'm using rabbit ears located behind the TV.

In my junk box, I have a Lectrolin EDA 2400 Drop Amp which is supposed to add 7 db's of power.

AS you can gather by my comments, I am a newbie, and a non-technical one at that.

My question is, will this Amp be of value? (or will it damage my TV?)

Is there a timeframe for Global, CJOH, CITY, etc to be available in Ottawa?

Thanks
Dinch
OP | Post 25 made on Monday April 16, 2007 at 17:21
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On April 16, 2007 at 11:43, dinch said...
I just purchased a HD television - RCA26 inch. I have
been able to get 4.1 and 9.1 pretty well, although the
HD broadcasts of the games have had some signal loss every
minute or so - but not enough to lose sight of the fact
that the picture is perfect most of the time. I'm using
rabbit ears located behind the TV.

What type of rabbit ears are you using? Are they combined with a UHF antenna? CBOT-DT and CBOFT-DT (4.1 and 9.1) are actually currently broadcasting on channels 25 and 22 respectively so you need a UHF antenna. One of the best indoor UHF antennas is the Zenith Silver Sensor (or clone, some of which also have rabbit ears for VHF). Another good option for indoor use is a AntennasDirect DB-4, although it isn't specifically designed for indoor use. Having said that, depending where in the city you are located and where the antenna is in your house you should be able to get away with any UHF antenna as CBOT-DT and CBOFT-DT are both quite strong.

Edit: One other thing, try and move the antenna further away from the TV.

In my junk box, I have a Lectrolin EDA 2400 Drop Amp which
is supposed to add 7 db's of power.

My question is, will this Amp be of value? (or will it
damage my TV?)

My general rule is amplifiers are not beneficial for indoor antennas, but 7dB isn't much gain so it shouldn't damage your TV and if you own it already it might be worth a shot.

Is there a timeframe for Global, CJOH, CITY, etc to be
available in Ottawa?

Unfortunately all the stations seem to have put the transition on hold right now until the CRTC publishes the results of their review of Broadcast TV in Canada. Assuming a favorable result, my best guess is that the OMNI's and possibly Sun TV could be broadcasting digitally in about a year. The others will probably be at least 2 years away. Global, CHCH and TVO will probably be the last stations to broadcast digitally in Ottawa.

BTW, have you checked out the Digital Home Canada Ottawa/Outaouais Reception Results thread? It has lots of good information.
Post 26 made on Tuesday April 17, 2007 at 08:19
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Which of the antennas available from The Source would you recommend. Here is a link to their page.

[Link: thesourcecc.com]

I would like to get an antenna today - for the game tonight. My VHF rabbit ears are ok - but I am getting some snow every 30 seconds or so.

I live in Stittsville, just south of Hazeldean Road in a bungalow. The antenna must sit on the main level, 12 feet from the east-facing window. Very little interference between the window and Camp Fortune.
David
Dinch
OP | Post 27 made on Tuesday April 17, 2007 at 12:11
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On April 17, 2007 at 08:19, dinch said...
I live in Stittsville, just south of Hazeldean Road in
a bungalow. The antenna must sit on the main level, 12
feet from the east-facing window. Very little interference
between the window and Camp Fortune.

Hey there neighbor! I am also in Stittsville. Stittsville is a good location for OTA as with an outdoor antenna you have a good chance of receiving some US stations.

Which of the antennas available from The Source would
you recommend. Here is a link to their page.

I don't normally recommend antennas from The Source, but if I had to choose one of them, I would probably pick the 1501857 (DELUXE VHF/UHF/FM ANTENNA). I noticed they are also clearing out the 1501866 (PICTURE FRAME INDOOR ANTENNA) and the 1501858 (PASSIVE INDOOR ANTENNA WITH CLOCK) which might fit in your decor a bit better. Apparently the Kanata Centrum store has a couple of the former and all three Kanata/Stittsville locations have the latter (call to confirm availability). I don't have experience with any of these antennas so I can't comment on how well any of them actually perform.

I do have experience with an RCA ANT1020 that I picked up for a friend at Home Hardware and was impressed with it.

I would like to get an antenna today - for the game tonight.
My VHF rabbit ears are ok - but I am getting some snow
every 30 seconds or so.

Another option would be to tune your VHF rabbit ears for UHF as described at [Link: kyes.com]. The correct length for channel 25 is (coincidentally) about 25 cm tip to tip (though if it has metal eye protectors you might want it a bit shorter).

Good luck and let us know your results. GO SENS GO!
Post 28 made on Tuesday April 17, 2007 at 15:32
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FYI...If you're getting snow, you're not watching the digital channel. Seems obvious but you referenced an HDTV in your first post, so just checking.
LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!
OP | Post 29 made on Tuesday April 17, 2007 at 16:59
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On April 17, 2007 at 15:32, OTAHD said...
FYI...If you're getting snow, you're not watching the
digital channel. Seems obvious but you referenced an
HDTV in your first post, so just checking.

I was thinking the same thing, but then he also mentioned 4.1 and 9.1 which are the digital channels. Maybe he is seeing pixilation and is calling it snow.
Post 30 made on Tuesday April 17, 2007 at 18:05
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Thanks for your help - I went to The Source and bought the one with the clock. 24 comes in reasonably well - and 4.1 and 9.1 come in great (I hope that it stays great tonight when the games are on). I'm getting 11 analog stations with this machine- none real well. However, I also have an old Bell system hookup, so all is well. Thanks again.

David
Dinch
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