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Post 1 made on Monday May 2, 2005 at 11:31
barlow
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I have been looking at DVD recorders vs TIVo and or PC based HD recorders.

I happened to be at Sears last night and saw a Generic non brand name DVD recorder that said it had a built in TV Guide. If I recall correctly it said it does not need telephone or cable hook up for the TV Guide feature.

Does anyone know what this TV guide feature is ? The pic on the Box looked like a typical TV Gude menu selection screen.

-Don B
Post 2 made on Monday May 2, 2005 at 12:16
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There are TVs and VCRs with this, too. It's some extra guide that is for OTA TV, basically like the cable guide channels, just a list.

If you are looking at DVDRs as a time-shifting device, you should probably concentrate on Panny since they have DVD-RAM capability, or models with built-in HDD. If you are just looking to archive movies, don't compare it to Tivo or similar, they have different uses.
OP | Post 3 made on Monday May 2, 2005 at 13:36
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Basically I would like to capture some HD I watch on PBS. I guess I would have to connect the Component out from my Samsung 451 into the compnent input of the DVD recorder. Plus I realise that the output form this arrangement will probably not be much better than progressive SCAN DVD when I watch it 2nd hand. But at least it will be better than watching it as recorded from a Analog version of PBS over a VCR.

Some questions:
1. Do the DVD recorder/players output recorded DVd's in Component ?
2. Do any of them have built in OTA HD turners ?
3. What output do the DVD recorders output in that claim almost "HD" quality ?- DO they have DVI output.

-Don B
Post 4 made on Tuesday May 3, 2005 at 20:54
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Im holding off for a couple of years. I think that one of the FCC requirements is that by 2007 "recording devices" must have built in atsc tuners, along with (or instead of) ntsc tuners which most have right now.

Also, I notice that most dvd recoders only have s-video inputs. I bought a no-name one like this a few months ago, and returned it the next day, as the quality was abysmal, far worse than DVD, and only marginally better than my S-VHS;

Costco are currently selling a philips model that has component inputs, I would imagine that this would do a farly decent recording. however it only has PCM audio inputs, so no 5.1.
True, it wouldnt be HD, it would be degraded - but then that could be said of the "traditional" VHS recording of an off air ntsc signal; , still a good dvd recording of an hd signal will (for me) be perfectly adequate for timeshift purposes, which is all I use my VCR for. Id really like to record the 5.1 audio though.
Post 5 made on Tuesday May 3, 2005 at 22:06
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I was actually in a local store for some blank DVD's at the weekend and noticed a DVD recorder for under $140. At that price, I couldn't resist and it works suprisingly well.

Records from both cable and satellite using s-video with no problems, and it also has component out.

Certainly the PQ doesn't touch the better DVD players, nor is it HD, but I think it's a reasonable alternative to a vcr, and it's a decent machine for the money.
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Post 6 made on Wednesday May 4, 2005 at 10:50
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On 05/03/05 20:54 ET, ontariocraig said...
Also, I notice that most dvd recoders only have
s-video inputs. I bought a no-name one like this
a few months ago, and returned it the next day,
as the quality was abysmal, far worse than DVD,
and only marginally better than my S-VHS;

Have you ever looked up the word abysmal in the dictionary? If abysmal is better than SVHS, but less good than pre-recorded DVD, does that make SVHS hellish, DVD poor, and I suppose VHS makes you homicidal? HD must be, what....just ok?

Costco are currently selling a philips model that
has component inputs, I would imagine that this
would do a farly decent recording. however it
only has PCM audio inputs, so no 5.1.

Nothing has 5.1 recording, and is not likely to very soon. Perhaps HD recorders when they come out.
Post 7 made on Wednesday May 4, 2005 at 13:18
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No I haven't looked it up. but that's what I thought of the dvd recorder, I'm just sharing my experience as best I can, I'm not an expert in the english language.

Of course it's all relative.




On 05/04/05 10:50 ET, Spiky said...
Have you ever looked up the word abysmal in the
dictionary? If abysmal is better than SVHS, but
less good than pre-recorded DVD, does that make
SVHS hellish, DVD poor, and I suppose VHS makes
you homicidal? HD must be, what....just ok?

Nothing has 5.1 recording, and is not likely to
very soon. Perhaps HD recorders when they come
out.
OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday May 4, 2005 at 13:53
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Maybe I will wait for a ATSC tuner version.

Sears had quite a display of recorders when I was in their Sunday and they were all out of the box for display so I was able to spin them around and look at the I/O but now I don't recall if they had Component In/out or just Component Out. At least I could look at them !! I was too busy trying to see if anyone of them advertised near HD quality - DVI- as I have seen in some ads and forgot to check for sure on the component out.

What was funny was I was trying to sell the better half on getting one explaining that it is both a DVD recorder and a VCR and will take up less room in our cabinet than our separate units. I thought I had her sold since she thinks things are getting messy in the cab. Sears had a 10 percent sale going on, they had an open box unit that had a knocked off price....and so on.

But she was not sold. We didn't get one.

Than when we got out to the car her comment was "How will we play DVD's if it only records DVD's ?".

Oh well, maybe it is just as good that I wait for a ATSC built in tuner !!

-Don B

This message was edited by barlow on 05/04/05 14:05 ET.
Post 9 made on Wednesday May 4, 2005 at 16:06
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It will be nice when they become available - go from 3 boxes down to one, and less cabling and switching to worry about.


Oh well, maybe it is just as good that I wait
for a ATSC built in tuner !!

-Don B
Post 10 made on Wednesday May 4, 2005 at 16:07
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You can't record HD on DVD's. They do not have enough storage capacity to do so. When Blu-Ray or HDdvd comes out, there you go, but not yet. Most DVD recorders will not have a component video in, nor have I seen any that upconvert; doesn't mean they aren't out there, just not very common.

Also the tv guide feature is encoded with the over the air signal and many analog cable systems. Depending on the unit, it works very effectively.
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Post 11 made on Wednesday May 4, 2005 at 17:24
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Yep, that HD question kinda got missed in all the discussion. The only removable storage HD recorder is the JVC D-VHS. And that only works with HD boxes with Firewire output. All the major providers now have HD-DVRs, though.
Post 12 made on Wednesday May 4, 2005 at 17:28
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ok..that answered a nagging question ive had for a long time..ive got a JVC HD VCR and wondered if there was any other way to record hd other than firewire..ive got the dct6200 so i can do it but its very quirky..do any sat boxes have fire wire?
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Post 13 made on Thursday May 5, 2005 at 12:49
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Some do, but I'm not sure which at the moment. Haven't had one, yet.
Post 14 made on Friday May 6, 2005 at 14:56
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Dadio:
whtat is the brand of the recorder model number and what store did u get it from? I would reallly like to know
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Post 15 made on Friday May 6, 2005 at 23:32
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Stumped,

I'm way too embarassed to say.

Actually, no I'm not, it's a real no-name brand that I had not heard of: "ILO", model DVDR04. Paid $139 at my local Walmart.

I've had it about a week now, and have succesfully burned about a dozen DVD's so far. I've tried recording both live broadcasts, and others that I had saved to DVR, and really cannot fault it for the money.

It only uses DVD+R or RW, but every one has played succesfully in my Sony changer and my PC. I haven't tried copying to it from another DVD as yet, so cannot comment on if/how that works out, but that's not too much of a concern for me.

I think for a basic introduction to DVD recorders, you could do a lot worse than this model, and for me it will do until the better models become both available and affordable.
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