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OP | Post 2,191 made on Wednesday June 3, 2009 at 18:03
Daniel Tonks
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Funny... I search for "Broadcast Distribution Undertaking" on Google and your post here is result #23. ;-)
Post 2,192 made on Wednesday June 3, 2009 at 22:08
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A correction: It is actually result #33 but still 3 results ahead of the "other forum" lol.

BTW How is the sports programming on the new Universal Sports channel on NBC's multiplex? , How is the picture quality compared with the previous WCSN?. I have not had the time to set up a UHF antenna again just to watch it yet?.
OP | Post 2,193 made on Thursday June 4, 2009 at 03:22
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You must be getting a different Google datacenter; on mine right now it's result #22 as a phrase and #30 for words. :-)

I've only watched NBCUS to confirm that it exists, but so far it's pretty... fuzzy.
Post 2,194 made on Thursday June 4, 2009 at 10:14
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The Universal Sports channel on NBC's subchannel 2-2 is off poor quality, lots of pixetalization, was watching part of tennis last night, in my opinion, give me the weather channel back or RTN.

I receive this channel solidly in Richmond Hill.

Any body else finds this?
Post 2,195 made on Thursday June 4, 2009 at 20:42
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On June 4, 2009 at 10:14, Nueatit said...
The Universal Sports channel on NBC's subchannel 2-2 is off poor quality, lots of pixetalization, was watching part of tennis last night, in my opinion, give me the weather channel back or RTN.

I receive this channel solidly in Richmond Hill.

Any body else finds this?

I tuned in earlier tonight. Rowing was on. After 5 minutes I couldn't stand it anymore cause of the pixelalization. Looks like an internet feed being broadcast over TV. Hope RTN doesn't look like that.. .
OP | Post 2,196 made on Thursday June 4, 2009 at 22:40
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Probably worse. There isn't much leftover space after a 1080i/5.1 signal... they need to upgrade ATSC to h.264.
Post 2,197 made on Friday June 5, 2009 at 00:15
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holly smokes people they will officially switch in 7 days and you already want them to use MPEG4!. I do not think it is gonna happen at least not in a few years. As of July 2008 that coded has been added to the ATSC standard. I do not think my Samsung TV has an MPEG4 capable ATSC tuner but I think the Bell 9242 does. The FTA Viewsat Max HD does MPEG4 on the OTA tuner as well as the Coolsat 8100HD.

I do not think the fuzzyness on NBCUS is related to that Daniel. That is why I asked because with WCSN it looked like it was an internet feed and that channel started as an internet based service so maybe they are still doing the same. Via internet you used to get access to live events , then they will show it on WCSN weeks later.
OP | Post 2,198 made on Friday June 5, 2009 at 01:52
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I just know the battles WNED had trying to get 1080i and two 480i subchannels... it's why they switched to 720p for a while. Although they're back to 1080i now; I think they may have upgraded their MPEG2 encoder.

MPEG4 really is the future - much more efficient than MPEG2. But for it to happen they're going to have to mandate that new ATSC decoders can handle it (for at least 5 years I'd guess) before we'll ever see a blip of MPEG4 transmission.

All I know is the quality on NBCUS isn't that great. It looks better than "crummy internet feed", but I'd say not as good as WNED's subchannels.
Post 2,199 made on Friday June 5, 2009 at 03:48
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On June 4, 2009 at 22:40, Daniel Tonks said...
Probably worse. There isn't much leftover space after a 1080i/5.1 signal... they need to upgrade ATSC to h.264.

I hope not, or I may be screwed into buying hardware that doesn't perform as satisfactorily as my two MDP-130s,
while other cards offer capture, including analogue inputs for other sources,no other acts as a second video card with
its own output via VGA [and the now hard-to-get-DVI daughter card].
Post 2,200 made on Friday June 5, 2009 at 09:44
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MPEG 4 has been demonstrated to be a superb standard but to try to implement it now would really alienate a lot of people who just made big dollar purchases of what would be potentially obsolete equipment. At the very least a TV would become a monitor with the need for an outboard decoder of some kind. And I don't think broadcasters are interested in spending the money to convert, especially in these economic times. I believe it will be some time before we see a change like that. (But I've seen crazy things happen in this business, so don't remind me of what I said if something develops real soon ;-)
-bb
Post 2,201 made on Friday June 5, 2009 at 10:03
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Got my answer over at the AV science forum: [thanks bb]

[Link: avsforum.com]

...as he breathed a sigh of relief!

:-)

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Post 2,202 made on Sunday June 7, 2009 at 12:27
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If you watch some of the locally inserted commercials from WGRZ, the quality of that channel seems to dramatically improve. Its just during US programming that it looks bad. WGRZ may to to tweak the bit rate a little too.
Post 2,203 made on Sunday June 7, 2009 at 12:29
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By the way their is now a crawl on WNYO stating that they will be reverting to Ch-49 digitally on June 12th at midnight. I'm not sure if that means going into the 12th or going into the 13th. This should improve reception reliability into the GTA for sure
OP | Post 2,204 made on Sunday June 7, 2009 at 17:58
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Wow, this is all very rush-rush over at WNYO. The construction permit for a new 49 transmitter was only granted on the 4th!

It will be directing almost all of it's power to the north-west, so it shouldn't be too bad for reception.
Post 2,205 made on Monday June 8, 2009 at 19:08
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Another channel that might Flash-Cut this week is WBNF-CA from Grand Island, a LP station repeating WNYB's programming. So far the application is still pending but if it gets approved, the stations DT signal may be recievable in the GTA since their analog has always been somewhat reliable until recently but I think they are at way reduced power for the last 2 weeks. They broadcast on UHF 15.
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