It's only RF capable in the sense that the remote uses RF. There's a base station that converts the remote's RF to IR for your equipment. So, you can be in the kitchen and control your home theater in the living room. But you can't learn the RF signals from, say, your DSS. Come to think of it, the 8090 doesn't learn IR either. :-)

Sure, it can't learn RF. I don't need that. I do want to control my DVD/VCR from the bedroom, as I have wired the house so I can watch from there. And no, it can't learn IR per say, but it seems like the One For All folk are quite responsive to adding stuff. Yeah it takes a bit for turn around, but for $50, I still think it is a deal. The only thing close is the SL-9000, and I don't think they spent much time designing the look of that hunk of plastic. It looks like it came from the '80s. For a good pic of the 8080/8090 with its backlighting, look here.

Now if you have a $10,000+ home theater, no, I don't think this is the solution. But for a more basic system (mine is around $3000), it will do the job.

I have tried both the SL-9000 and 8080, and strongly prefer the SL-9000. Although you may prefer the look of the 8080, in actual use the SL-9000 works much better. If you need the 8090's multi-room control capability, you can always buy a separate IR -> RF -> IR system.

8080 problems compared to the SL9000:
1. Lack of memory. This is the most frustrating; if it had more memory I would have kept the 8080. You can't quite get all the functions you want on the remote, and can't move all the functions to exactly the key you want them on. If you only have a few components and can live with only basic control, it's fine. (It's # of components, not cost that's the issue -- even cheap receivers and DVD players have tons of buttons you may want to duplicate)
2. No learning. This means you have to send in your remote for upgrade if you get some newer pieces of equipment, or wait for them to respond to an "advanced codes" request, which is tedious. Even then there is no guarantee they'll have the advanced codes you are looking for.
3. Device buttons don't switch. This means to switch from VCR to DVD, you have to hit the audio button, then a number key to switch the receiver, then the DVD. On the SL9000, you just have to double click the DVD button. This is minor if you don't switch between devices much, but is annoying.
4. Only 3 macros, rather than 10.
5. Placement of transport buttons. With the 8080, they are at the bottom, and that makes them difficult to operate one-handed, because all the weight of the remote is trying to pull it out of your hand. I use them a lot to FF through commercials, and appreciate the central placement of these controls on the SL9000.
6.Although the number shaped buttons look cool, they aren't that easy to press, especially the thin "1" key, which I often had to depress multiple times to get it to register.

8080 advantages over SL9000:
1. Clock + timed commands
2. Separate menu + transport controls
3. Sometimes you can find codes for functions that aren't on your original remote.
4. shift key, nearly doubles the available buttons (too bad there's not enough memory to use them)
5. Key mover lets you move command from one button to another without going through a learning process.

Stephen: that's a great comparison - I've contacted One For All about reviewing the remote, but haven't heard back yet.

I should have noted in my "mini-review" of the 8090 that I don't have any basis of comparison except for the previous reviews that Daniel has done.

i have the One-for-All 8090 and was at first frustrated by the lack of complete support for some of my equipment, and the need to call/wait for new codes to correct this.

however, i figured out how to FIND the codes myself, using the remote's MAGIC function.

basically, once you know the device code for the equipment for which you want to add functionality,
the procedure is as follows (have paper/pencil handy!):

hit the input button to make sure you are controlling the desired device.
hit MAGIC/0/0/0 - see what happens - write it down
hit MAGIC/0/0/1 - see what happens - write it down
hit MAGIC/0/0/2 - see what happens - write it down
hit MAGIC/0/0/3 - see what happens - write it down

continue like this up to 255. 257 repeats what 001 did.

yes, this is tedious, but it will allow you to map out EVERYTHING that your device is capable of receiving. i even found some things i could do with my TV that the TV's own remote didn't do!

once you know the MAGIC sequence for any function, use the keymover function to store it into whatever key you want. follow the keymover instructions,
but when prompted for 'from', hit MAGIC/x/y/z instead of an existing button, then when prompted for 'to', hit the button you want to store that magic sequence into...

hope some of you may find this useful...

Paul,

I believe that you can order a list of the codes from the One For All web site. Go to the US site, and then choose "Order Advanced Function Codes" at the bottom of the page. That should make life MUCH easier!

Bill

What remote to buy? Sony directtv receiver,Sony receiver Str 825,Sony XBR Tv Digital,Apex600A DVD,and a Sharp VCR. Any help would be appreciated Mike

I need the code for a one4all remote on a admiral tv set. I lost my list and can't seem to get the remote to reset. Thankyou for your time.

K. Payne

Can I get the list of codes for a Zenith T.V. and an APEX DVD. My remote type is --URC-4060B06.
Thank you for your time.
Cindy Jugovich

I brought a oneforall device 3 so easy and can't seem to get it program to my vcr, model #wvcr-8014 white-westinghouse.

Good day, I have oneforall remote control model URC8080B00 and i have lost the manual, I want you to kindly send a manual to my e mail address:[email protected] and advice me on how i'm going to code my new electronics which i don't know their code nos.
*Teleline Television
*Sony cd player
*Aurex radio cd cassette player
*kebao vcd player
*Panasonic vcr.
I will appreciate if you can do this for me to enable me to start enjoying the magic of my oneforall remote control again,Thanks
Richie.

I bought a one for all cinema 7 remote and I need the code for our magnavox digital box. Can you help me out?

I have a oneforall remote urc 6885. I have lost the manual. How can I get a new one? Can you send me one via mail or e-mail([email protected])
Thank you

Go here to The Robman's excellent site for almost everything you need, including manuals, for all OneForAll and RadioShack (made by OneForAll) remotes.

... Greg

And it wouldn't hurt to email Rob with a thanks for all the effort he has put into that site!