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RS 15-1994 JP1 details revealed
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OP | Post 61 made on Thursday January 11, 2001 at 23:36
The Robman
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I don't know what you're doing wrong, but I'll try sending you an invite from within egroups and see if that helps.

Rob.
OP | Post 62 made on Friday January 12, 2001 at 15:34
The Robman
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We just tried out an experimental version of the Philips TiVo code and it works! Unlike the official version, this one supports advanced codes!

Rob.
OP | Post 63 made on Friday January 12, 2001 at 23:15
Schlepp
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AAAAAaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiii

AAAAAaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiii

AAAAAaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiii

^^^^>>>>^^^^^>>>>>^^^^^>>>>>^^^^^>>>>>

We bow down to the NEW "gods" of Universal Remotes.

OK now let me get this straight...

I've got a "sub $30 remote that can do "almost" anything, has backlighting, and a cool "velvety" surface. AND the wife understands how to use it...

I can now "build" a box to make it do even more.

STOP THE INSANITY...

If I wanted a remote that could all that I would have spent three to six hundred dollars.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHAHHAAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok enough banter...

When can we expect you guys to come up with a way for this remote to...

1) get up in the morning and get coffee going

2) feed the yungun's

3) automatically change to "any channel" showing MacGyver re-runs. (though, not taking presedent over "any channel" showing CHiPs re-runs)
When appropriate.

4) "sensing" user "abilities" (you know... guy vs. girl, adult vs. kid, Mom vs.Dad, Old vs. Young, Good vs. Evil)

5) Well, I'd be interested in what "YOU'D" like to see this remote do.

As always...

Drunk, Disorderly, Disenchanted, and soon to be Disenboweled. (means... drunk on Scotch and eating too many of those "damn" high fiber crackers)

Schlepp
OP | Post 64 made on Saturday January 13, 2001 at 03:22
Ian Munro
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Rob, will your great efforts allow a mixture of Protocols and codes?

Can the programming create more Device Buttons?

If you have a moment could you review the thread on the "One for All" forum entitled "Advanced Codes - URC-8200B00 to map to RCA CRK 76TE1" I am wondering if the described problem concerning the RCA Video Selector can be corrected by programming a remote?
OP | Post 65 made on Tuesday January 16, 2001 at 14:17
Cliff
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Is anyone offering to sell a built programming box, for those of us not able/willing to build one ourselves?

Alternatively, is anyone offering a service to upgrade our remotes for us, by sending in our remotes?

Thanks.
OP | Post 66 made on Tuesday January 16, 2001 at 19:02
The Robman
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Cliff,
I'll upgrade your remote for you, drop me a line, but I doubt anyone would be willing to build a box, even for money, it takes most people two hours to build.

Ian,
If I remember correctly, the RCA video selector has it's own set of IR commands, which it defaults to when it loses power, and these are the same codes that RCA uses as input selects for all it's devices, so you can create those codes right now without a selector box.

Here's how you do it. The advanced code you need is 227, the question is "what's the device code?", here are some codes that you can use:

DVD/0522
VCR/0060
VCR/0202

There are probably more, just pick some RCA device codes and try advanced code 227. (I'm getting thse codes from: [Link: hifi-remote.com]

Now understand that I don't have this video selector (I have the Sima) so I'm just going on what I read in that thread.

Rob.
OP | Post 67 made on Wednesday January 17, 2001 at 02:03
Ian Munro
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>Ian,
>If I remember correctly, the RCA video selector has >it's own set of IR commands, which it defaults to >when it loses power, and these are the same codes >that RCA uses as input selects for all it's devices, >so you can create those codes right now without a >selector box.

>Here's how you do it. The advanced code you need is >227, the question is "what's the device code?", here >are some codes that you can use:

>DVD/0522
>VCR/0060
>VCR/0202

>There are probably more, just pick some RCA device >codes and try advanced code 227. (I'm getting thse >codes from: http://www.hifi-remote.com/cgi->bin/ueic.cgi?amp_0054

Rob, As usual your memory is perfect! The selector uses the discrete "Power On" in conjunction with the particular device code as follows:

Sat 7:58 EFC=227 (RCA "Discrete On" Code)

VCR 14:58 EFC=227

DVD 5:58 EFC=227

The first problem is that I use non RCA equipment for my VCR, DSS, Cable Box and DVD. In order to use the selector I must create a "dummy" RCA device for each of these components hence require a total of 9 (5 real and 4 dummy)device keys. The remote has only 6! I have attempted to create say a "Dummy" RCA VCR Device, adding the EFC of 227 to a button and then copying this key to my JVC real device key. Unfortunately, it appears that a modified key (EFC 227) will not copy.

What I would like to do is program a button with the applicable device (RCA VCR), protocol (RCA) and EFC(227) but have it live in a device map with a different device (JVC VCR) and protocol.

Can this be programmed?

On the weekend I purchased a Radio Shack 15-1994 as my original UEIC remote did not have a learning function. I have subsequently used this ability to learn a the code from the original RCA remote for:

1) VCR (RCA format)

2) DVD (RCA format)

3) DSS (RCA format)

These buttons perform the switching of the selector properly. As such, I have worked around the problem but still would prefer to program a number of keys as opposed to using the learned codes. Also, I would like to use my UEIC remote which does not have a learning function.

My plan was to use macros to have one button access to each of my components. For instance, one macro would select the device (JVC VCR)then using the "dummy" RCA learned code for a RCA VCR, switch the selector to VCR and change the TV to Video in. The automatic "Video in" switching is a nice feature of RCA TVs.

This lead to the discovery of my second problem! The selector requires a continuous input for a second or two before it switches hence a single "shot" from the macro is not sufficient. To make matters worse, multiple "shots" will not switch the selector. The selector needs the equivalent of a significant button hold time.

I surmize that when a button is continuously held only the last part of the code is repeated.

Is there anyway to duplicate a hold function in a macro.

Is it possible to program a button to output only the repeated code without the "start" data.

>Now understand that I don't have this video selector >(I have the Sima) so I'm just going on what I read in >that thread.

Rob.
OP | Post 68 made on Wednesday January 17, 2001 at 12:54
The Robman
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You have the right idea, but the wrong syntax. Here's the complete syntax for programming an advanced code:

[SETUP **] 994 ** {dev1} SETUP nnn {dev2} button **

So, let's say you're not using the transport keys in P&P mode for anything and this is where you'd like to store all these special selector codes. Let's program the REW button to select the DVD input.

First, program the VCR button to code 0522
Then, using the above syntax, you would do this:

[SETUP **] 994 ** VCR SETUP 227 P&P REW **

You get the idea?
Rob.
OP | Post 69 made on Wednesday January 24, 2001 at 02:48
Ian Munro
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Rob, this worked great! It allowed me to use the UEIC 8200B00 which does not have learning capabilities.

Do you have any suggestions re a method to mimic a button "hold"?

Can this function be programmed into the EPROM using your interface?
OP | Post 70 made on Wednesday January 24, 2001 at 10:40
The Robman
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<<Do you have any suggestions re a method to mimic a button "hold"? >>

Yeah, hold the button! :) If the button on the URC-8200 doesn't repeat properly, it probably means the device code is using the wrong protocol. You might want to try some other device codes and see if you can find one that works properly. If you want the techie details, here they are: your device is probably expecting a signal that uses the NEC2 protocol, where the whole signal is repeated when a button is held down, but your remote is probably using the NEC2 protocol which only sends the signal once and then repeats a special two byte code if the button is held down. If you use the NEC1 protocol on a device that is expecting NEC2 it will work, but the repeat function won't.

For example, I found that VCR code 0240 worked my Samsung SV5000 VCR, but the buttons didn't repeat. VCR/0240 uses NEC1, the VCR expects NEC2, so I have re-worked the code using NEC2 and added it to my remote and now it works fine.

<<Can this function be programmed into the EPROM using your interface?>>

Yes, if you were using the 15-1994, but I haven't taken the time to decode the memory format for the Producer 8 remotes yet. I am not familiar with the URC-8200, so I don't know if that's similar to a Prod 8 or a Cinema remote.

Rob.
OP | Post 71 made on Wednesday January 24, 2001 at 23:17
Ian Munro
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<<>>



This works great! The problem occurs when a macro calls the button. The hold is not long enough.



For example, I found that VCR code 0240 worked my Samsung SV5000 VCR, but the buttons didn't repeat. VCR/0240 uses NEC1, the VCR expects NEC2, so I have re-worked the code using NEC2 and added it to my remote and now it works fine.>

The protocol is RCA. The problem only occurs with the RCA video selector. The TV responses instantly without the need for a button "hold"

<>



I am now the owner of a UEIC 8200B00 (perhaps only sold in Canada) and a 15-1994. The interface should be completed on the weekend.



OP | Post 72 made on Wednesday January 24, 2001 at 23:41
Ian Munro
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Sorry, the above message got messed up big time.

<
This works great! The problem occurs when a macro calls the button. The hold is not long enough.


The protocol is RCA. The problem only occurs with the RCA video selector. The TV responses instantly without the need for a button "hold"


I am now the owner of a UEIC 8200B00 (perhaps only sold in Canada) and a 15-1994. The interface should be completed on the weekend.





OP | Post 73 made on Thursday January 25, 2001 at 15:09
The Robman
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Let's see if I can make Ian's message a little more readable....

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<<<Do you have any suggestions re a method to mimic a button "hold"? >>>
<Yeah, hold the button! :)>


This works great! The problem occurs when a macro calls the button. The hold is not long enough.

<If the button on the URC-8200 doesn't repeat properly, it probably means the device code is using the wrong protocol. You might want to try some other device codes and see if you can find one that works properly. If you want the techie details, here they are: your device is probably expecting a signal that uses the NEC2 protocol, where the whole signal is repeated when a button is held down, but your remote is probably using the NEC2 protocol which only sends the signal once and then repeats a special two byte code if the button is held down. If you use the NEC1 protocol on a device that is expecting NEC2 it will work, but the repeat function won't.>
For example, I found that VCR code 0240 worked my Samsung SV5000 VCR, but the buttons didn't repeat. VCR/0240 uses NEC1, the VCR expects NEC2, so I have re-worked the code using NEC2 and added it to my remote and now it works fine.>

The protocol is RCA. The problem only occurs with the RCA video selector. The TV responses instantly without the need for a button "hold"

<<Can this function be programmed into the EPROM using your interface?>>

<Yes, if you were using the 15-1994, but I haven't taken the time to decode the memory format for the Producer 8 remotes yet. I am not familiar with the URC-8200, so I don't know if that's similar to a Prod 8 or a Cinema remote.>

I am now the owner of a UEIC 8200B00 (perhaps only sold in Canada) and a 15-1994. The interface should be completed on the weekend.

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It's my fault, I misled you into believing that you can use the "<" and ">" characters in messages, you can't! When I want to use one of these chars I actually type &lt; and &gt; which is the HTML code for those chars.

Rob.
OP | Post 74 made on Thursday January 25, 2001 at 15:13
The Robman
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I keep losing the following code, so I'm putting it here so I know where to find it....

The Pronto Hex for the VIDEO3 button for Kenwood receivers is:

0000 006c 0022 0002 0155 00ac 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0040
0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0016
0015 0018 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0018 0015 0040 0015 0016
0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0018 0015 0015
0015 0040 0015 0016 0015 0018 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040
0015 063f 0155 0056 0015 0e49

This code is NEC1, device 184.3, command 29, efc 248

Rob.

OP | Post 75 made on Tuesday January 30, 2001 at 09:57
The Robman
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Egroups has now become Yahoo Groups, so here's the new link if you want to join the group...

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