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Denon AVR-4308 learned codes problem
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| Topic: | Denon AVR-4308 learned codes problem This thread has 14 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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| Post 1 made on Friday October 23, 2009 at 10:06 |
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I am having problems with these codes that I learned from a denon avr-4308 receiver.
DTU (selecting HD radio):
0000 006C 0000 0031 0081 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0B1E
Net/USB:
0000 006C 0000 0032 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0B1E 0081 0041 0010 0016
Zone DTU (selecting HD radio for Zone 2):
0000 006B 0000 0031 0082 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0010 0010 0031 0010 0031 0010 0B3C
Zone 2 Net/USB:
0000 0060 0001 0032 0016 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0035 0014 0011 0014 0035 0014 0035 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0035 0014 0035 0014 0035 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0035 0014 0035 0014 0011 0014 0035 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0035 0014 0035 0014 0035 0014 0035 0014 0035 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0C92 0093 0047 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0035 0014 0011 0014 0035 0014 0011 0014 0035 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0035 0014 0011 0014 0011 0014 0035 0014 0035 0014 0011 0014 0011 0018
Can someone fix these or show me how to fix these?
Last edited by superflysocal on October 23, 2009 21:39.
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| Post 2 made on Friday October 23, 2009 at 10:41 |
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There are so many threads at RC about clean generated code for that device, it is a waste of effort to mess around with bad learns.
In fact, I or any of the other experts here, can decode those bad learns and use makehex to generate a clean copy of each signal. But it makes more sense for you to do a forum search and find that the full set of signals including those has been posted.
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| Post 3 made on Friday October 23, 2009 at 10:48 |
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DTU (selecting HD radio):
0000 006D 0000 0032 0083 0042 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0B1B
Net/USB:
0000 006D 0000 0032 0083 0042 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0B1B
Zone DTU (selecting HD radio for Zone 2):
0000 006D 0000 0032 0083 0042 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0B1B
Zone 2 Net/USB:
0000 006D 0000 0032 0083 0042 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0032 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0011 0010 0B1B
Cheers
Jason
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| Post 4 made on Friday October 23, 2009 at 13:46 |
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Jasonvp,
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!
johnsfine,
I did search but only found codes for older receivers. The functions I listed are found only in the newer models (didn't have usb, internet, or HD radio back then). Your post did prompt me to search other denon receivers and found some post on possibly converting these myself. Still hard to figure out though.
Last edited by superflysocal on October 23, 2009 14:05.
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| Post 5 made on Friday October 23, 2009 at 14:19 |
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On October 23, 2009 at 13:46, superflysocal said...
I did search but only found codes for older receivers. The functions I listed are found only in the newer models (didn't have usb, internet, or HD radio back then). Your post did prompt me to search other denon receivers and found some post on possibly converting these myself. Still hard to figure out though.
Sorry. I thought a search would find it. Then after I posted, I tried the search myself and failed. I still thought the content was out there and I had just searched badly. But I decided I ought to just give you the answer by fixing your bad learns. So I came back to this thread and saw Jason already had given you the answer.
I believe Jason knows how to decode those bad learns. I know he knows how to generate clean codes from a decode or from the Denon IR documentation. I expect he is better able than I to find the right Denon documentation. So I have no idea whether he decoded the bad learns or found the Denon IR documentation or found the Pronto Hex.
In MakeHex you would use the Denon-K.irp file and use device 4.1 for the zone 1 commands and 4.3 for the zone 2 commands. The function numbers are 715 for DTU and 711 for NET/USB. But since I failed at the search, and decoding those bad learns (except for one easy one) is beyond beginner level, I'm not sure where a beginner would find that 715 and 711.
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| Post 6 made on Saturday October 24, 2009 at 09:06 |
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Allright, I give up.
How did you figure out that 715 was device for DTU and 711 was for net/usb?
Can you post functions for these, sinc ei woul dlike to do zone 3 and zone 4. I presume zone 3 is 4.5 and zone 4 is 4.7?
TV
SAT
DVD
V. AUX
VCR/Ipod
DVR
HDP
CD
Tuner
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| Post 7 made on Saturday October 24, 2009 at 09:26 |
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On October 24, 2009 at 09:06, superflysocal said...
How did you figure out that 715 was device for DTU and 711 was for net/usb?
I found those by manually fixing the flaw in 3 of the 4 bad learns, then using IrTool with DecodeIr to decode all 4 (one bad learn decoded correctly without fixing any flaw).
I have seen Denon documents listing the function numbers for all functions of a model. But I forget where those were and I don't know if your model has one of those documents.
I don't know which method Jason used to get the 715 and 711.
Can you post functions for these
I'll look again later for the right Denon document for that, if Jason hasn't already given you the answer by then.
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| Post 8 made on Saturday October 24, 2009 at 10:35 |
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boy you are good...you are right, one of the learns did work off the bat, but I posted it anyways to get a cleaner code i guess.
i found the document online on denon website but for zone 3 it looks like device should be 8, doesn't make sense
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| Post 9 made on Saturday October 24, 2009 at 10:46 |
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Ok here is an exerpt:
format sharp
data construction 15 bits c14 0 c15 0=not inverted, 1 =inverted
remote id =1
system address (c1~C5) : 01000, extension bit (c12,c13): 10
No. Data (c6~c11) Key Name
8 000100 Tuner
10 010100 CD
14 011100 DVD
15 111100 HDP
18 010010 TV/CBL
19 110010 SAT
20 001010 VCR
21 101010 DVR
23 111010 V.Aux
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| Post 10 made on Saturday October 24, 2009 at 11:30 |
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OK, found another place on the denon document that I was able to see how 715 and 711 was derived. Based on that I got 729 for V. Aux, and used 4.5 for zone 3, trying it out now...
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| Post 11 made on Saturday October 24, 2009 at 12:25 |
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I have a PCF File with all the Hex Codes for a 4310 which should be mostly the same as the 4308. I also have a Excel Spreadsheet that I have converted all the Binary Codes to Decimal. All you have do is match the Function Number of the Function Name from the Spreadsheet to the Button Number in the PCF File for the correct Function and Hex Code.
The Hex Codes are all KASEIKYO Protocol and are for ID2. So the Receiver has to be set to ID2.
I have not tested them yet, but I can send them to you if you want to try them?
Send me mail if you want them. My address is in my profile.
Cheers
Jason
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| Post 12 made on Saturday October 24, 2009 at 14:10 |
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On October 24, 2009 at 10:35, superflysocal said...
boy you are good...you are right, one of the learns did work off the bat, but I posted it anyways to get a cleaner code i guess.
I never would have guessed that one of those bad learns would work. My decoding software is supposed to figure out many bad learns by itself even when the learns are too bad to actually work.
The second bad learn (Net/USB) was just "rotated". The beginning of the learned signal was at the end and the whole thing correctly repeated. In many other threads people have reported that older Pronto's work OK with such rotated signals, but the NG Prontos don't. I assumed (by your choice of forum) that you are using an NG Pronto and the rotated signal wouldn't work. DecodeIr.dll has no trouble with rotated signals, so I just pasted it into IrTool and got a correct decode.
The other three bad learns were worse than the rotated one. I needed to edit them slightly after pasting into IrTool in order to get a correct decode.
i found the document online on denon website but for zone 3 it looks like device should be 8, doesn't make sense
They don't use exactly the same terminology for parts of the signal that I use in DecodeIR and in MakeHex.
On October 24, 2009 at 10:46, superflysocal said...
Ok here is an exerpt:
format sharp
The signals that Denon documents as "Sharp" can be created in MakeHex using Denon.irp. There are various threads and some other programs that explain and/or simplify the task of translating from the data Denon documents into the device and function numbers for MakeHex.
The signals that Denon documents as "Kaseikyo" can be created in MakeHex using Denon-K.irp.
Some Denon devices uses both kinds of signals.
Last edited by johnsfine on October 24, 2009 14:17.
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| Post 13 made on Saturday October 24, 2009 at 17:31 |
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Ok everybody has been very helpful, i need one more for now.
Zone 3 Mute
here is the learn:
0000 006C 0000 0032 0011 002F 0011 002F 0011 000F 0011 0B1E 0083 003F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 002F 0011 000F 0011 002F 0011 000F 0011 002F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 002F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 002F 0011 002F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 002F 0011 000F 0011 002F 0011 000F 0011 002F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 002F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 002F 0011 002F 0011 002F 0011 000F 0011 002F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 002F 0011 000F 0011 000F 0011 002B
I think it should be device 4.5 code: 370, tried makehex denon-k but it didn't work. please help
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| Post 14 made on Saturday October 24, 2009 at 18:55 |
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On October 24, 2009 at 12:25, Jasonvp said...
I have a PCF File with all the Hex Codes for a 4310 which should be mostly the same as the 4308. I also have a Excel Spreadsheet that I have converted all the Binary Codes to Decimal. All you have do is match the Function Number of the Function Name from the Spreadsheet to the Button Number in the PCF File for the correct Function and Hex Code.
The Hex Codes are all KASEIKYO Protocol and are for ID2. So the Receiver has to be set to ID2.
I have not tested them yet, but I can send them to you if you want to try them?
Send me mail if you want them. My address is in my profile.
Cheers
Jason
sent you email
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| Post 15 made on Saturday October 24, 2009 at 19:06 |
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