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Directv Continuing Problem.
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| Topic: | Directv Continuing Problem. This thread has 18 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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| Post 1 made on Monday September 21, 2009 at 20:32 |
mborner Regular Member |
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I've had my TSU7000 set up for some 5 years, now. I've had continuous problems with my Directv HR20 HD DVR satellite box. I've posted several times with issues and I seem to get them taken care of for a time. Johnsfine has been magnificent in my never ending quest to perfect the operation of my HR20. Here's a quick rundown of the problems I'm currently experiencing.
Macros: They are pretty much, 100% non functioning. As an example, I'll discuss channel 236. The macro, as set up in PPENG, is:
2
0.10 delay
3
0.10 delay
6
0.10 dealy
enter
I've left the delay off the end because I've discovered that I get the best rate of functionality with it gone.
It should be noted that the remote is set up to output RF, using the RF6000 IR repeater.
When the macro is used on the pronto, the resulting action is somewhat confusing. Here's what I get on the Directv info on the TV:
2..3..
or
23..
or
2..6
or
23..
or
2..6
or
23..6 (functional)
or
236 (functional)
or
2..
or
2..3..6 (functional)
or
6..
or
2365 (?)
or
3..6
and so on.
it's almost never the same and takes nearly 15-20 tries of the macro before it gets it right. Notice how the macro only contains 3 numbers, 2, 3, and 6, but somehow, it will throw a 5 at the end of the macro ??.
So far, here's what I've done to try and fix the problem.
1. I've posted all my digits, 1 through 9, in the past, and Johnsfine was able to modify them so that they worked a little better than before. (they're back to not working again, although, the codes haven't changed)
2. I've changed to every available channel on the RF but nothing has changed.
3. I've added delays to the beginning and the end of the macro command to no avail.
4. I've increased and decreased delays between every digit in the command and also at the beginning and end of the macro. Basically, I've increased, decreased, added and subtracted delays in every imaginable way.
5. I've moved the RF blaster as close as 1 foot, to as far away as 15 feet from the Directv receiving eye. (currently, it sits about 24" from the eye.)
6. I've layered 2 pieces of Scotch Magic Tape over the receiving eye of the STB
7. I've tried using the emitters. (close, and far away, from the eye)
7. I removed the glass door from the cabinet that the STB was in.
A little more information on the setup:
All other components in the system have ALWAYS worked flawlessly.
Pressing the individual digits on the pronto for Directv work about 98% of the time.
Macros only work about 10% of the time.
Here are the HEX codes as modified by Johnsfine:
I'll use 236 as the example above.
2
0000 006B 000A 000A 00E8 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 0017 0017 0017 002E 0017 0017 0483 0074 002C 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 0017 0017 0017 002E 0017 0017 0483
3
0000 006B 000A 000A 00E8 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 0017 0017 002E 002E 0017 0483 0074 002C 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 0017 0017 002E 002E 0017 0483
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0000 006B 000A 000A 00E8 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 0017 0017 002E 0017 002E 0017 0483 0074 002C 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 0017 0017 002E 0017 002E 0017 0483
Is there any hope? I love the Pronto but this has been a never ending quest for me and I'm beginning to question the usefulness of the remote.
Please help!
Thank you.
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| Post 2 made on Monday September 21, 2009 at 21:09 |
Lyndel McGee RC Moderator |
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I suspect you may have already tried this but I have to ask...
On the IR codes, have you tried adjusting the 'Duration' setting to something other than 'Default'? You will require latest editor and firmware to make this happen.
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Lyndel McGee Philips Pronto Addict/Beta Tester View EscientPronto 1.0.2 Docs - [Link: mediafire.com] |
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| Post 3 made on Monday September 21, 2009 at 21:43 |
rsblaski Long Time Member |
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I sent you two configs attached to an email. If your email address in your profile is incorrect, let me know here and I will resend them.
Rick
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| Post 4 made on Tuesday September 22, 2009 at 00:53 |
Satisfaction Long Time Member |
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It is not the remote but the bad software updates from D*. Problem is still not fixed in current NR of software. Check out dbstalk and you will see a lot of issues with slow response to remote (IR and RF) codes.
It almost seems like the unit is doing something at the time and will not respond but other times it does.
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| Post 5 made on Tuesday September 22, 2009 at 10:23 |
Robertxyz Junior Member |
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I have the HR22-100 and have the same problem. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it don't. I have tried all kinds of durations and it doesn't work all the time.
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| Post 6 made on Tuesday September 22, 2009 at 12:19 |
Ernie Bornn-Gilman Elite Member |
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As I read the posts, it also dawned on me that DirecTV does software updates from time to time, and they can change anything on a receiver. It completely makes sense that a new version of the software might make your IR system not work. Ridiculous, but yeah, that could be it.
I'd try durations as long as 0.5 seconds.
But here's a trick for any kind of macro situation like this: make a delay that you can globally change.
You're aliasing to a page of commands for the numbers, right? On that page, make a new command named delay, with small letters to distinguish it from Delay as shown in the software. Then alias that button to a Delay.
Your macros become
number
delay
number
delay
number
If you find you need or want to try a different delay, you change the value of the Delay on the delay button, and suddenly every delay in every macro has the new value.
I've also heard that there's a general problem with IR commands with the new sets from the 20s on, being that they require much more precise replications of the original commands than the older units needed. I have no understanding of how sloppy timing could enter into an RF unit, or how an IR sensor/emitter system could change the timing on an IR signal, but I've seen a Niles system go from ridiculously flaky to solid as a rock when Niles introduced a new IR sensor designed to receive signals for DirecTV (and all other) products.
If this kind of flakiness is the problem, how could one go about solving it with a Pronto RF setup? I have no idea.
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| Post 7 made on Tuesday September 22, 2009 at 12:42 |
rsblaski Long Time Member |
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I have two DirecTv dvrs (HR20-700 and HR22-100). I have been using the two sets of codes for years and they work perfectly after every software update that D* creates. It took me a while at first to get the configs to be completely reliable.
If any of you are interested in getting copies of my configs (one is the default, and the other is for AV-2), send me an e-mail and I will reply with the config files attached.
I do use the RF-6000 blaster and both dvrs respond reliably.
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| Post 8 made on Tuesday September 22, 2009 at 13:20 |
makitamark Active Member |
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when i run those codes posted above thru Irtool it gives Russound protocol, device 12 functions 2,3 and 6, but, they all seem to repeat twice!
i tried to create new codes with makehex but they too repeat twice.
maybe John will chime in and explain what is happening with these codes.
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| Post 9 made on Tuesday September 22, 2009 at 14:12 |
mborner Regular Member |
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thank you all for your response. Rick, I got your PCF's, I'll try them when I get a chance. Lyndell, I just recently (last night) changed the duration from default to .15. Also, I think my blaster was much, much, too close to the STB (like 18", and facing head on). So, I moved the blaster to the back of the room. Also, I replaced the scotch tape on the receiving eye with blue painter's tape. Last night I was getting 100% but I only tried it a couple of times. Hopefully, it will hold out. Thanks again, everybody.
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| Post 10 made on Tuesday September 22, 2009 at 14:42 |
Satisfaction Long Time Member |
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On September 22, 2009 at 12:42, rsblaski said...
I have two DirecTv dvrs (HR20-700 and HR22-100). I have been using the two sets of codes for years and they work perfectly after every software update that D* creates. It took me a while at first to get the configs to be completely reliable.
If any of you are interested in getting copies of my configs (one is the default, and the other is for AV-2), send me an e-mail and I will reply with the config files attached.
I do use the RF-6000 blaster and both dvrs respond reliably.
Are your HRXX connected to a network? Makes a big difference in performance. I also have two and the last two updates have killed the performance, only thing that cures problem is a reboot of the HRXX.
Again tons of post with slow response of remote, even stock one.
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| Post 11 made on Thursday September 24, 2009 at 13:43 |
rsblaski Long Time Member |
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On September 22, 2009 at 14:42, Satisfaction said...
Are your HRXX connected to a network? Makes a big difference in performance. I also have two and the last two updates have killed the performance, only thing that cures problem is a reboot of the HRXX.
Again tons of post with slow response of remote, even stock one.
Yes, both dvrs are on a network running the latest firmware. (Actually using CE firmware, if you know what that is.)
I am always sorry to hear of others who have problems with their DirecTv dvrs as I couldn't be happier with mine. (Well, I could, but only in the sense that D* is always adding new features and I am always happier when they arrive, lol).
I have great response to my Pronto (TSU7500) and all of the dvr functions work well.
I hope your problems eventually get taken care of.
Rick
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| Post 12 made on Thursday September 24, 2009 at 16:02 |
mborner Regular Member |
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Hi Rick, I haven't had a chance to try the codes in your PCF yet but I did make some changes as noted above. Overall, I'm getting about 98-99% sucsess rate with my macros. The 1% failure seems to come about when the box is first turned on. I'm happy with the way it is working now, however, if history says anything, it will be short lived. Thanks again.
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| Post 13 made on Friday September 25, 2009 at 13:23 |
rsblaski Long Time Member |
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On September 24, 2009 at 16:02, mborner said...
Hi Rick, I haven't had a chance to try the codes in your PCF yet but I did make some changes as noted above. Overall, I'm getting about 98-99% sucsess rate with my macros. The 1% failure seems to come about when the box is first turned on. I'm happy with the way it is working now, however, if history says anything, it will be short lived. Thanks again.
I leave my dvrs on all the time. Dvrs are never really "off" as they are always ready to record anything that is scheduled. The only thing turning them off does is to stop the buffering and allows background maintenance such as updating the guide to be done immediately.
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| Post 14 made on Saturday September 26, 2009 at 17:03 |
texasbrit Founding Member |
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I leave my DVRs "on" all the time also. There's very little reason for turning them "off". And it means you don't have to worry about the lack of a discrete power on/off in an activity-based PCF like mine.
I have an HR20-100, an HR20-700 and an HR21-100. All driven by an RF repeater. My delay between numbers in a macro is 0.2 seconds and I have never had a problem with the macros, in three years with a TSU7000.
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| Post 15 made on Sunday September 27, 2009 at 10:08 |
mborner Regular Member |
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On September 22, 2009 at 13:20, makitamark said...
when i run those codes posted above thru Irtool it gives Russound protocol, device 12 functions 2,3 and 6, but, they all seem to repeat twice!
i tried to create new codes with makehex but they too repeat twice.
maybe John will chime in and explain what is happening with these codes.
makitamark,
Here are a couple of old threads in which johnsfine has helped me in the past. Perhaps there is some information in there that could spell out why my codes are repeating twice. I seem to recall that he modified them that way.
[Link: remotecentral.com]
[Link: remotecentral.com]
Thanks for taking the time.
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