The price on RU990 is nearly the double of TSU7500.
Is there any reason for me to not order on the net TSU7500.

The only I see problem with is the Voltage on the power adapter.
Its often dual for use in all coutry. Can any of you confirm that it can handle 220V?

Not sure about the power adaptor, but I'm pretty sure this question has been asked before - a forum search should provide the answer.

The built-in code database will be for American, not European devices (no big deal, just learn IR codes). Also you won't be able to use the European RF extender with the TSU7500 (must use the American equivalent)

Other than the RF band that the TSU7500 uses, I can't think of anything. The RU990 works within a higher RF band width. If you wanted the future use of an RF extender, you would need to buy the North American model.

I can't comment yes or no, but I strongly suggest that you do a little research into the IR operating frequencies of European equipment in comparison to the TSU7500 IR output (and RFX6500) to see if they will communicate easily. Philips details that the TSU7500 will learn codes higher than the normal operating range, but you never know.

Now the power adapter I can say will not work for you. I'm not 100% but do believe that the European receptacles (wall outlets) aren't even physically the same as the North American type. So you shouldn't be able to plug in the base. If you could, you would fry the adapter. With luck before it managed to destroy your remote.

Again, I'm not certain but I think European power is has a frequency of 50Hz....? (North America is 60Hz) That may also create problems. The battery would charge, not as well, but it would. However if the Pronto draws direct power when in the cradle rather than from the battery, it may adversely affect the remote. That's getting into some hard core ripple voltage math from the power adapter but it is a possibility. A European adapter needs to be more tightly regulated to produce DC the same as a North American model. That would come down to how sensitive the electronics are, and I don't know.

You would need to buy an adapter that is available to convert the European style pin configuration to the North American format. I'm not sure whether they also step down the voltage or not. The North American Pronto doesn't switch.

I'd look a little harder for European pricing. I just did a quick search and the RU990 after conversion was a couple of hundred more. After accessories you would need and shipping they really wouldn't be too far apart.

I would suggest if the Pronto is the way you want to go, buy the RU990. Sure you will take a small hit in price but when you weigh in the lack of warranty. (There is no way Philips would warranty a piece being used on a different power system then it was designed for.) The extra cost is worth not having to deal with potential headaches. That is, even if it works perfectly with European equipment.

Best of luck...!

The physical connector is no problem, I can use an adapter.
Most new electrical equipment to day supports from 110 to 240 voltage and bot 50hz and 60hz.

I do find TSU7500 at eBay for $669.99 + 64.99 in shipping. Totaly $735.
converted to NOK that would be 4700 kr. If I am luck the custom forget to add the VAT (normaly they forget to add it). If they add VAT, it would be 5875 kr

Lowest price I have found on RU990 in Norwegian internet shops is 9990kr If I order from other country I may find it to around 9000kr, but still av wery big gap.

jotne,

I bought my RU990 for £564 in UK (about NOK 6850kr) and as it is within the EU you will only have to pay postage and no exter tax/VAT (I believe)

I got mine from [Link: shop.nexnix.co.uk] and the site says they will ship to EU countries but you need to contact them for cost of shipping.

Hope that is helpful!

Stoobie

Thanks

I have sent them an email.

Well there you go.....

I used the MSRP for the TSU7500, which is much closer to $1000. Sorry but I wasn't bargin shopping when I looked it up. To be honest I most likely used the wrong conversion too.

However using the MSRP and the proper conversion to kr, at least by my online banking service, the total still comes to 6200kr. Sorry, that doesn't include any shipping and taxes that may added.

The price I saw when I suggested hunting a little, was actually close to same as what Stoobie mentioned. (googled for a uk dealer)

Either way your right.... That is a good gap.

Todays electrical equipment for the part does support both voltages. Unfortuniately not many do it automatically. A physical switch is used to reposition either a transformer tap or switch in additional solid state devices. The TSU7500 has no such switch and there is no need for it. They obivously make a separate unit for that voltage. The Hz I don't believe to be an issue. I thought I would mention it just to cover all the bases.

There is no easy way to compensate for the lower frequency. You would have to take the power at 50Hz, convert it to DC, then pulse it back to 60Hz. Not exactly cost efficient....lol There are other ways, but it's still only a band aid. A power supply designed for 60Hz will not produce the same DC with being only provided 50Hz. Not really what we're discussing here but don't think for a moment that if you did have warranty based issues that Philips wouldn't use that as method of getting out of covering any repairs.

If I were in your shoes and the IR communication wasn't a possible issue, I'd buy the TSU7500. Worth the risk given the extra cost. Worst case senario, you bust it, buy a North American replacement parts, and pay someone to fix it. Probably still ahead of the game.....

Best of Luck...!

Got a 7000 and a 7500 and both work fine here in Holland.
RF frequency (if you need it) is 433 MHz in Europe and 418 MHz in America.
So that won't work.
My 7500 came from Germany and was converted by the seller, the 7000 came from the USA.
Beware of US refurbished ones from Philips USA, they have only 3 months warranty and mine got defective after 4 months.
I don't use the RF facility.

barend,

I'm not familar with Holland's power system.... Is it 220 like the rest of Europe? Did you not have to use some kind of adapter for the 7000 for sake of dropping the voltage????

Is it safe to assume then, the North American Prontos don't have any issues learning European IR codes? I really wasn't sure if things work differently over there or not. I was listing possibilities earlier and thought that may be of some concern.

Thanks

Do not buy a transformer. Simply replace the power adapter with a local one - maybe 15 Euro.

IR codes work the same way all over the world.

It should be that easy.... However, when you do, (if not a Philips item) make sure that the polarity is same as the oringinal. This does make a difference. Jack configurations vary, and although whatever you buy may be the same size, it may not connect the same. Positive to positive, negative to negative. I'm sure you know what I'm getting at.



Thanks, really didn't have any idea on that one.

Info...
Norway is NOT a member of the EU.

@Smokinghot
RF emitted in Europe will NOT work on a USA bought Pronto, as the frequencies are different.
So the receive board has to be altered from 418 to 433 for Europe.
However, if you own the extender you won't have any problems, as this re-emits infrared codes.
But I'm glad my seller altered the remote, because I can now use RF steered power sockets.
This seller www.Exclusiv-Home.de has a lot of expertise on Pronto's, and sells the TSU7500 cheaply with matching power sockets, and also has the ir codes to feed into PENG.

@Barend
That sounds like quite the alteration... I take it, it wasn't an expensive one for you to still by the 7500 over 990.

Have you actually used the the 7500 to control a RF device yet? I have heard comments that it "should" work but nothing on if it does, and how well.

Pronto RU990 is now landed in my house.
I desided to get an Europen version at last.

Here is the official answer from Philips: Can i use TSU in Europe or RU in US
No you can not.
Due to legal regulations RF devices can not be used in different regions. TSU7000 is FCC approved, but not CE approved. The latter is needed for Europe. RU980 is CE approved, but not FCC approved. The latter is need for the US.

At my opinion there are no other reason for that it should not work either way.
It can learn :)