I searched but couldn't find this out of the 50,000 responses I got.

How can I convert short pronto hex back to the longer form?

I am trying to copy from a Marantz remote file into SpeakerCraft's EZ Tools and EZ Tools doesn't accept the short form.

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.

Which short form are you trying to convert? There are several different types. Post an example.

Marantz uses mainly RC5 and for discretes often uses RC5x.

For either, you can use MakeHex to generate the long form. Any way of getting the long form loses the desired behavior of the toggle bit.

I think he means that the model of Pronto he has is a Marantz.

...Sounds to me like he's trying to convert short RC5 codes for use with another program that can import standard Pronto learned hex.

If he hadn't mentioned that the file was for a Marantz remote, for all we know the code could also have been a database code, and even still I suppose that he could have 7000 or 8000 formats.

So: if it's a 5000 series code John's provided your answer, otherwise please post a sample of the code and let us know exactly what it's for.

Oops! You're right. I didn't read carefully.

Thank you so much everyone! I thought it was Makehex but couldn't remember. Sorry that I didn't give more info in my post. I've been around long enough to know to provide more data. :-)

Here's an example of what I'm trying to use. This is power on for a Marantz tuner.

5001 0000 0000 0002 0010 000c 0001 0000

SpeakerCraft's EZ-Tools wouldn't accept this format.

Yes, it is for discretes so they're RC5x.

Thanks again.

MakeHex output for that set of three commonly requested discrete codes is below. The specific code you asked for is the middle one (function 1). (A given device should need only two of these three, but I've seen requests for 0 and 1 and other requests for 1 and 2).

Device Code: 16.12 Function: 0
0000 0073 0000 0011 0020 0020 0040 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 00A0 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0AC4
Device Code: 16.12 Function: 1
0000 0073 0000 0011 0020 0020 0040 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 00A0 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0AA4
Device Code: 16.12 Function: 2
0000 0073 0000 0010 0020 0020 0040 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 00A0 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0040 0AC4

In 5001 0000 0000 0002 0010 000c 0001 0000:
the first four values: 5001 0000 0000 0002 just mean "RC5x"
The next two values: 0010 000C are treated by my software, including MakeHex, as a two part device number (though that isn't what they really signify). So those are translated to decimal as
Device=16.12
The next value: 0001 is the function number.
The last value: 0000 is filler (because the count of values must be even).

Hopefully that explanation is enough to let you use MakeHex to contruct any other RC5x codes you need.

So I take this part of any RC5x code ( 0010 000c as the example) plug that into the calculator in Windows to covert to decimal (0010 entered as 10 converts to 16 , 000c entered as c converts to 12 since a calculator won't take zeroes at the beginning) and plug this information into the RC5odd.irp right? 16.12 after "device", save it as a new name file with .irp as the extension, then drop it on the makehex.exe file?

No, into RC5x.irp

I only see RC5odd , RC5, and RC6. I don't see an RC5x.irp . Do you mean that I create one? I downloaded Makehex from this site just this morning. Is there a different version somewhere else?

What is the Furby.irp for? Don't tell me it's for those evil little toys!

I tried it with the RC5.irp and this is what I got, which is different than what you posted above.

Device Code: 16.12 Function: 0
0000 0073 0000 000C 0020 0020 0040 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0CC4
Device Code: 16.12 Function: 1
0000 0073 0000 000C 0020 0020 0040 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0CA4
Device Code: 16.12 Function: 2
0000 0073 0000 000B 0020 0020 0040 0040 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0040 0CC4

To determine which command it actually is I look at the second to last group for the function number like you said above correct? So, since this is power on, it's function 1 because of the 0001 in the second to last group, correct?

No. It needs to have the correct contents.


Yes. Most of my files on remotecentral.com are obsolete. The current MakeHex is at:
[Link: john.fine.home.comcast.net]


That's what it WAS.
I dropped Furby support from most of my software, since there didn't seem to be any interest, but I left it in MakeHex. I read somewhere that a new line of Furbys was launched. I doubt it uses the same IR signals as the Furbys from many years ago (which were all my software ever supported) but I don't really know.

That's why it didn't work. You have the file! :-) I'll download the newest one and try it out.

My boy has a new Furby, maybe if I get a little extra time I'll play around for it and see if it works. Who knows!

Thanks for all the help John. I'll let you know how it goes.

Alright, I got the same results as you. Thanks again!