I have the Samsung LNR408D HDTV and wondering if there are discrete codes for that TV. I found the discrete codes for the Sansung TVs in the discrete code section, but not sure what are the HLN, HLP and HLR stands for. I am guessing that is the first letters of the TV model. If that is the case then will those work with the LNR models. If not, then I have read that there are discrete code on Samsung web-site.

So here are the questions:
Before I spend hours trying each code from the discrite sections, will any of those will work for LNR TVs?

Or

Anybody know the address for the discrete codes on the Samsung web-site?

Thanks.

P.S. I am currently designing the TV channel buttons. I know it is not much, but there is going to be over 140 channels in the file. Most of them are Direct TV, locals in the L.A. area and some Dish Network. So far I only made about 75 of them.

Suppafreak,

This one won't cost you $12.50, only your time...

For manuals...

[Link: samsung.com]

However, the manual I found does not have any of the Function Codes listed...

For images...

http://www.satlogo.com.

For IR Codes...

Most manufacturers use the same Device ID and common functions across all models of a particular device type. For example, TVs. However, there may be differences where discrete codes are concerned.

I'm just curious as to how you are going to spend hours trying each code?

There are exactly 37 codes listed in the link below for samsung. Two models support 14, one 9.

[Link: remotecentral.com]

Put all these codes into a single CCF/PCF, download to the remote and try them out. That simple. No need to dig through PCFs or CCFs.

If you find that these don't work, you will need to post a learned Power Toggle Code here and one of us (John Fine or myself) can tell you how to use Makehex to generate a full set.

But, if you don't want to spend the time to do this, I'll gladly hop on a plane to LA to learn em for you, provided you buy the round-trip ticket. Heck, I'd even split the cost with you just to be able to look up Ernie Gillman. ;)

Thanks

I am so glad I do not have to spend $12.50. I was hoping it would be $25.00. By the way I just purchased the TSU7000.

I did some research and I beleive the HLP codes will work. I will try them out. If they do not work then I will post the learned codes I already have.

If you want to post a code, I can tell you if the discretes to which I pointed you use the same Device ID. Then, using this information, you can use MakeHex.exe with, I think, the NEC1.irp file to generate a full set of all 256 codes (Functions 0-255).

OK.

These are the only two I need.

Power
0000 006B 0000 0022 00AF 00AF 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0042 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0042 0016 0016 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0710

Source
0000 006B 0000 0022 00AF 00AF 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0042 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0042 0016 0710

I'm not understanding you here. You need these 2 but you just posted codes for them? What are you asking?

The Power Code is Device 0x07 Function Code is 0x02
The SRC Code is Device 0x07 Function Code is 0x01

Assuming these work,

Device Code: 7 Function: 1 (SOURCE)
0000 006D 0000 0022 00AC 00AC 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0689

Device Code: 7 Function: 2 (POWER)
0000 006D 0000 0022 00AC 00AC 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0689

The following data can be pasted into a file Samsung.irp and used with MakeHex to generate a file of all 255 codes


Device=7
Function=0..255
Protocol=NEC2 'Like NEC, but repeats entire pattern
Frequency=38000
Time Base=564
One=1,-3
Zero=1,-1
Prefix=8,-8
Suffix=1,-78
;Default S=~D
Form=;*,D:8,D:8,F:8,~F:8,_

Once you have a file Samsung.hex, you can copy the contents from there using Notepad into IRPanels.exe to generate a CCF with all 256 buttons.

I was thinking that there is an individual code for the Power On, Power Off and all the sources (HDMI, Component, etc.) By individual code I mean that I can use it to program a button. For example if I create a button for HDMI source, I can press it and switch to the HDMI source with out cycling thru the rest of the sources. In other words make a discrete button instead of the toggle button.

Also I am not familiar with Samsung.irp and MakeHex what are those and where do I get them.

Thanks

All of the codes from the HLP section work. All the source codes switch correctly. However the TV also has the TV source. Right now I just have HDTV over the air antena hooked up. Not sure if this is the same as Antena 1 code, but it does not work.

I am also looking the discrete codes for the Picture Size. There are only 5 of them:

4:3, 16:9, Panorama, Zoom1 and Zoom2.

Apperantly they can be created according to this file, but I have no idea how.

[Link: erms.samsungusa.com]

He posted the non discrete codes for two function for which he wants to find discrete codes.

Those non discrete codes let us verify that his TV uses the typical Samsung protocol and device codes.

There are lots of discrete codes posted all over RemoteCentral for Samsung TV's using that protocol and device code. I have no idea how to guess which ones work for a given version of Samsung's firmware.

For other protocol/device_number combinations, decoding the power toggle command would really narrow the search for discrete codes. In this case it doesn't (at least for me). Samsung seems to be quite consistent in their non discrete codes and quite inconsistent in their discrete codes.


I hope you have finally gotten an up to date MakeHex.zip and start using the IRP files from it.

The protocol for this thread is NECx2, and you can just use the NECx2.irp file included in MakeHex.zip. You don't need a crude approximation of NECx2.irp as you quoted below, nor do you need to rename it to Samsung.irp as you seem to be suggesting.

Samsung.irp is the file you must create with the contents I supplied. Makehex.exe is a program, along with IR Panels that is available from the Pronto Files Section.

Lyndel

The current version of MakeHex is at
[Link: john.fine.home.comcast.net]
NOT in the Pronto Files Section.

The text Lyndel put in post 6 of this thread is what he meant you to copy from there to a new file named Samsung.irp. That text looks like it would work, but I don't see any advantage to it over the NECx2.irp included in MakeHex.zip

Thanks,

This is what I got by running the Samsung.irp and NECx2.irp thru the MakeHex.exe

Samsung.hex
Device Code: 7 Function: 0
0000 006D 0000 0022 00AC 00AB 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0689

NECx2.hex
Device Code: 7 Function: 0
0000 006D 0000 0022 00AC 00AB 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0689

Looks identical to me. Does it supposed to display what the function is for or it just displays the number form 0 to 255.

I copied the entire content of the Samsung.hex in to the IRPanel and got the IRCodesCreate.CCF. Does that file has buttons names or numbers also?

John is correct. You should use the NECx2.irp file. I did not have a copy of that IRP file readily available so I made one myself (samsung.irp) and posted the contents.

The output of MakeHex should be the same for both irp files as you outlined above.l

With regard to names, Makehex never generates the name of the function, only the number. IRPanels behaves the same way - No function Names, only numbers.

How did I map the function name to number? Based on my experience learned/gleaned from Barry Gordon's Pronto Hex Format document in the User Documentation section of the the Pronto Files area for the NEC protocol, I figured out that the "Source" code you posted was function 1 and the "Power" code was function 2. I included the function name in the sample output only to show you which code should be used for each.

So, unless you have a document from Samsung that maps a Remote Button to a function ID, you are faced with having to figure out from current remote buttons, what the function code is. Knowing that, for example, Keypad 1 is function 32 eliminates function 32 from the 256 functions that are contained in the MakeHex output.

So, let's say that you know there are 48 functions used by the OEM remote and what those function numbers are, you can safely exclude these 48 from the 256 and you now only have 256-48 = 208 functions to test.

Lyndel

Thanks.

I got most of the buttons, except one. This one is a mistery. I wonder if this is a new one for the LCD.

The TV has 7 inputs: TV, Video1 , S-Video, Comp1, Comp2, HDMI and PC.

I cannot find the code for the TV input. Currently I have the HD over the air antenna conected.

Also where do I need to load the IRCodesCreate.CCF file.